Potentially one of the biggest red herrings yet.... if only. Mar 2, 2019 3:26:02 GMT Elotyr likes this
Post by aconda on Mar 2, 2019 3:26:02 GMT
Potentially one of the biggest red herrings yet.... but what if GRRM decided it was true.
Was ViserysII barren?
So alot of research turned into this question, one that perhaps won't be answered for many years. Perhaps it will never be answered and GRRM decides to follow a different route of breadcrumbs that he left behind. Or.... perhaps he will keep it ambigues.
So why this question and what does it really mean. ViserysII had a dramatic life experience in early life, became a pretty succesfull administrator in several Targaryen courts before becoming ultimatly king himself.
To fully understand the importance of this situation you'll need to understand part of the research and have access to a detailed genealogy tree of the Targaryens, with one of my favorites being the one from the awoiaf website.
The great and fun Aziz from History of Westeros podcasts, who researches a great deal into ASOIAF and who actually got me into this game. Aziz has found really interesting mnemonics that GRRM seems to use when creating notable characters troughout all of this universe's history and he regularly posts the simularities between the different characters on his twitter feed.
The universe building that GRRM does includes 100's of notable characters, with an account of 2103 mentioned characters in the books and to have mnemonics between different characters is just a smart writing style. To the reader, those characters in the canon often are as unrelated as can be, but there is a clever process going on behind the scenes.
Aziz found great simularities between ViserysII and.... Tywin Lannister and the mnemonic use between those characters seems validated. At the time i was doing research about a "what if" scenario about Tywin actually being barren and trying to rationalize different scenario's, including one about Tywin actually being aware that he was barren.
Some people might allready understand where that part of the story is going.
The situation, about Tywin knowing, seems to me fitting GRRM's overal writing when revealing a cool twist and while the "barren detail" wasn't mentioned in Aziz his comparison's lists, i did want to look into a "what if" scenario when extracting that data on ViserysII.
And boy, did it blow my mind.
Just check out the family tree trough that filter. You'll probably see the same thing i did.