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Post by ogarrr on Jan 22, 2019 23:27:48 GMT
I would still link it to the graphical culture, rather than the bloodline.
With regards to the current event, I would change it so that the one that runs yearly relies on either a graphical culture or for the father/mother to have the strong trait.
Then create a new event on startup that gives all extant members of the dynasty without strong or tall (even if dead if you'd like) the requisite traits. Startup events only happen once (on startup, funnily enough) and the player won't even notice it happening. A startup event is used to fix all of the graphical cultures for the various bloodlines in the base mod, for example.
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Post by wurzeldieb on Jan 23, 2019 1:32:17 GMT
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Post by ptm on Jan 23, 2019 21:26:47 GMT
Hi, I'd like to report a bug: this submod is unfortunately currently incompatible with any of the official submods except maybe Andal Invasion, as I reported in that Bug Report thread I linked to it jumbles up character and title history quite severely. |
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Post by ogarrr on Jan 23, 2019 21:30:54 GMT
If any mod edits the character history files, then this mod is incompatible with that and would require a compatibility patch.
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 23, 2019 21:54:32 GMT
Hi, I'd like to report a bug: this submod is unfortunately currently incompatible with any of the official submods except maybe Andal Invasion, as I reported in that Bug Report thread I linked to it jumbles up character and title history quite severely. This is a known issue. The way that the official submods made their history files is by largely reusing history files from the main mod with the dates tweaked unless it is a canon character, ie the Umber lord in Andal invasion has the exact same name, traits, children and id as in Aegon's conquest, this obviously makes this mod incompatibly with the official submods. I will eventually get around to a compatability patch to make them work. |
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Post by kappa on Jan 24, 2019 6:34:56 GMT
I'd say currently the odds of the Starks getting Green Dreams/Wolves/Dire Wolves is far too high. In my current playthrough there are 7 adult starks, among these 3 have green dreams and 3 (2 of the greenseers and one non greenseer) have BOTH a wolf and a direwolf that follow them around (shouldn't it just be direwolves?). I think lowering the odds significantly would not be a bad idea it might need some more testing to get exact odds, but unless this game was a huge anomaly I think it should be quite a bit lower.
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 24, 2019 8:39:17 GMT
I'd say currently the odds of the Starks getting Green Dreams/Wolves/Dire Wolves is far too high. In my current playthrough there are 7 adult starks, among these 3 have green dreams and 3 (2 of the greenseers and one non greenseer) have BOTH a wolf and a direwolf that follow them around (shouldn't it just be direwolves?). I think lowering the odds significantly would not be a bad idea it might need some more testing to get exact odds, but unless this game was a huge anomaly I think it should be quite a bit lower. Hmmm right I'll look at tweaking, in particular I'll try and make it harder to get a dire wolf than a normal wolf (they can get either but it's governed by a separate event) I'll also set greensight to a lower chance, out of interest what is the spread of greensight amongst other greensight bloodlines (reeds and blackwoods)? |
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Post by kappa on Jan 24, 2019 9:28:47 GMT
Among living adult blackwoods 5/8 are mystic, 3/8 are greenseers, 5/8 have a crow (one non mystic has a crow).
Among living adult reeds 4/5 have lizard lions, 3/5 are greenseers, (all have either one or the other) and 2/5 are mystics
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 24, 2019 9:36:44 GMT
Among living adult blackwoods 5/8 are mystic, 3/8 are greenseers, 5/8 have a crow (one non mystic has a crow). Among living adult reeds 4/5 have lizard lions, 3/5 are greenseers, (all have either one or the other) and 2/5 are mystics kl I'm broadly happy with the mystic rate but you're right the skinchanging and greensight rates are far too high, I'll adjust them down |
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 24, 2019 10:56:52 GMT
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Post by lordumber93 on Jan 24, 2019 15:36:04 GMT
Awesome. Can't wait to download it. Obvious Umber fan, so glad to see them getting these traits. Maybe add Strong to the Karstark? "Karstarks are big, fierce men"
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 24, 2019 18:55:46 GMT
So I don't think there's much grounds for a bloodlines for the Sunderlands, Marla was a rebel whose reign lasted at most a month or two and as you say the Skagosi are tricky as we know so little about them - hopefully I'll have something to add if we ever get WoW in the meantime I'll make a bloodline if you rebuild the shipyards of skagos as its all I can really think of Awesome. Can't wait to download it. Obvious Umber fan, so glad to see them getting these traits. Maybe add Strong to the Karstark? "Karstarks are big, fierce men" Thanks! Yeah so Karstarks are a tricky one - I'm thinking maybe brawny rather than strong. GRRM seems so garbled on the karstarks, on one hand they look like the statues in the crypts and the non Tully looking Starks like Arya or Jon, but at the same time they are tall whereas Starks generally seem to be short - Robb and Ned are both shorter than Catelyn (Tullys are a fairly tall house admittedly - blackfish, hoster). Maybe the karstarks intermarried with their umber neighbours? So hard to tell whether the Starks is meant to be tall or not or whether its just a wide hips/narrow hips style inconsistency |
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Post by kappa on Jan 24, 2019 19:15:30 GMT
Maybe only a chance for Karstarks to be strong... I don't think it's as ubiquitous as with the Umbers. That's if you add it at all.
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 24, 2019 19:35:36 GMT
Maybe only a chance for Karstarks to be strong... I don't think it's as ubiquitous as with the Umbers. That's if you add it at all. j Yeah my current view is a moderate chance of brawny ie they aren't naturally strong like the mormonts or umbers but living so close to the wall means that their lifestyle predisposes them towards brawniness even though it's not genetic |
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Post by lordumber93 on Jan 24, 2019 22:40:58 GMT
So I don't think there's much grounds for a bloodlines for the Sunderlands, Marla was a rebel whose reign lasted at most a month or two and as you say the Skagosi are tricky as we know so little about them - hopefully I'll have something to add if we ever get WoW in the meantime I'll make a bloodline if you rebuild the shipyards of skagos as its all I can really think of Awesome. Can't wait to download it. Obvious Umber fan, so glad to see them getting these traits. Maybe add Strong to the Karstark? "Karstarks are big, fierce men" Thanks! Yeah so Karstarks are a tricky one - I'm thinking maybe brawny rather than strong. GRRM seems so garbled on the karstarks, on one hand they look like the statues in the crypts and the non Tully looking Starks like Arya or Jon, but at the same time they are tall whereas Starks generally seem to be short - Robb and Ned are both shorter than Catelyn (Tullys are a fairly tall house admittedly - blackfish, hoster). Maybe the karstarks intermarried with their umber neighbours? So hard to tell whether the Starks is meant to be tall or not or whether its just a wide hips/narrow hips style inconsistency Ned is shorter than Catelyn? I know he's described as shorter and less handsome than his brother Brandon. Who wasn't short, described as just barely shorter than Robert Baratheon, so, 6'4"-6'5". Maybe that's the bigger heights for the Stark house though? My interpretation has been that the Karstarks are on average that size, like the statues seem to lead us towards thinking, maybe bigger if they married Umbers often. Brawny is fitting trait, being that far North, they'd need to be fit. Edit: maybe Wroth/ruthless to represent the fierce aspect? |
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