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Post by zervasius on Jan 21, 2019 21:47:54 GMT
Is it possible for a conginental overhaul compatibility patch?
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 21, 2019 21:56:55 GMT
v1.2 is now out, trait gain system seems to be working now! To run people through it there are two kinds of trait gain - if you are a stong bloodline (Umbers, Mormonts, Crakehalls, Baratheons, or Royces) and you are not already strong a yearly event will fire and you will become strong, ditto for tall bloodlines (oakhearts, umbers, crakehalls) and fair ones (shiera seastar and the concubines of Braavos). For an example of the event here is an Umber becoming tall (I know someone suddenly becoming tall in his 30s is a little silly but the short umbers in early bookmarks is equally silly imo):  The rest of the bloodline trait gains are not inevitable - you might get the trait if the event fires that year, but it is not guaranteed, so if you're a Reed you might get a lizard lion, but if you want it to happen try and make it more likely by being a zealous, brave mystic who worships the Old Gods - see below. The event can also fire for the AI but it may not always accept it (if you are a zealous and craven FoS worshipper skinchanging might seem to be heretical nonsense you should avoid)  Obviously I've only been able to do so much testing and balancing so if people think a particular event is firing too frequently then please report it (I'm not going for base game frequency of skinchanger events to be clear - if you are a Reed, a Banefort, Blackwood, or a Stark who is a mystic you have latent aptitude to magic in your blood already so frankly it should be fairly easy for you to become a skinchanger imo, and the frequency for non mystics from these houses, whilst rare should be much higher than the rest of the population, thanks to their magical heritage) |
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 21, 2019 21:58:36 GMT
Is it possible for a conginental overhaul compatibility patch? I certainly intend to make on at some point, once I've heard back about 1.2 and made any adjustments I need to make I'll make compatability patches for congenital overhaul, personal arms and a couple of others  |
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 21, 2019 22:00:25 GMT
I play with the free folk, and when applying the mod it changes something of the game, like the creation of High lordship, with the base game it does not cost gold and with the mod it is the same as vanilla (it costs 200 gold and the free folk costs save money...) I can't see why that would happen, the mod uses the base AGOT files as a template and I haven't changed title creation requirements |
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Post by mrpaper on Jan 22, 2019 0:35:00 GMT
To run people through it there are two kinds of trait gain - if you are a stong bloodline (Umbers, Mormonts, Crakehalls, Baratheons, or Royces) and you are not already strong a yearly event will fire and you will become strong, ditto for tall bloodlines (oakhearts, umbers, crakehalls) and fair ones (shiera seastar and the concubines of Braavos). For an example of the event here is an Umber becoming tall (I know someone suddenly becoming tall in his 30s is a little silly but the short umbers in early bookmarks is equally silly imo): One question, regarding this. What about Tommen for example, that he has the Baratheons Bloodline. Is possible for him to get the Strong trait during his life? Even when he is not actually a Baratheon or the Bloodline system understand when a character is not really a member? |
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Post by armok on Jan 22, 2019 0:44:10 GMT
Are you aware that because the Durrandon claim bloodline is not inherited by bastards, all Durrandons past Ronard Storm do not have the Durrandon claim bloodline and only have the actual Durran Godsgrief one?
Great mod by the way, I couldn't play CK2 AGOT v1.8 before v1.2 of your mod came out.
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Post by velox1000 on Jan 22, 2019 2:34:06 GMT
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 22, 2019 8:06:04 GMT
To run people through it there are two kinds of trait gain - if you are a stong bloodline (Umbers, Mormonts, Crakehalls, Baratheons, or Royces) and you are not already strong a yearly event will fire and you will become strong, ditto for tall bloodlines (oakhearts, umbers, crakehalls) and fair ones (shiera seastar and the concubines of Braavos). For an example of the event here is an Umber becoming tall (I know someone suddenly becoming tall in his 30s is a little silly but the short umbers in early bookmarks is equally silly imo): One question, regarding this. What about Tommen for example, that he has the Baratheons Bloodline. Is possible for him to get the Strong trait during his life? Even when he is not actually a Baratheon or the Bloodline system understand when a character is not really a member? Good point, I'll put an anti trigger for secret bastards Traditional claims of the greystarks is not a compatible mod and in order to make the hugor of the hill bloodline work I've had to edit the traditional claims file,, but this mod isn't compatible with the official submods yet so there shouldn't be any greystarks anyway? I'll put out a compatibility patch for both at some point I'm sure. Are you aware that because the Durrandon claim bloodline is not inherited by bastards, all Durrandons past Ronard Storm do not have the Durrandon claim bloodline and only have the actual Durran Godsgrief one? Great mod by the way, I couldn't play CK2 AGOT v1.8 before v1.2 of your mod came out. Thanks I'm really glad people seem to like it 😁 Interesting that sounds like a base AGOT 1.8 problem, I'll fix it for my mod but it might be worth you reporting it as a bug |
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Post by velox1000 on Jan 22, 2019 11:16:39 GMT
Traditional claims of the greystarks is not a compatible mod and in order to make the hugor of the hill bloodline work I've had to edit the traditional claims file,, but this mod isn't compatible with the official submods yet so there shouldn't be any greystarks anyway? I'll put out a compatibility patch for both at some point I'm sure. Yes, I know it was not compatible kkkkk But until the previous version was working. |
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Post by zervasius on Jan 22, 2019 14:57:42 GMT
Actually, I was trying it out with conginental overhaul and it seems to be working fine. Good work on the mod by the way.
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Post by joca on Jan 22, 2019 15:14:33 GMT
Actually, I was trying it out with conginental overhaul and it seems to be working fine. Good work on the mod by the way. I can confirm as well. So far, nothing out of the ordinary with both mods working together. I even started patching them both and then remembered I hadn't tried it out first. |
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 22, 2019 16:09:14 GMT
Actually, I was trying it out with conginental overhaul and it seems to be working fine. Good work on the mod by the way. I can confirm as well. So far, nothing out of the ordinary with both mods working together. I even started patching them both and then remembered I hadn't tried it out first. I'm halfway through making the patch the conflicts aren't major but they clash on a couple of history files - Robert Baratheon for example, also they clash over the events that give Jon Snow or fAegon bloodlines |
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Post by ogarrr on Jan 22, 2019 17:47:57 GMT
With regards to strong and tall events, I would make an on_startup event that gives all of those in the bloodlines strong. After that set a condition for gaining the bloodline to:
OR = {
real_father_even_if_dead = {
trait = tall/strong
}
real_mother_even_if_dead = {
trait = tall/strong
}
}
Which saves cuckold children from gaining the trait without actually being descended from the dynasty.
Also, Baratheons have a tendency to have strong and are not all strong, so I'd just link it to the graphical culture and make that give a higher chance of strong.
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Post by rufff1 on Jan 22, 2019 18:59:35 GMT
With regards to strong and tall events, I would make an on_startup event that gives all of those in the bloodlines strong. After that set a condition for gaining the bloodline to: OR = { real_father_even_if_dead = { trait = tall/strong } real_mother_even_if_dead = { trait = tall/strong } } Which saves cuckold children from gaining the trait without actually being descended from the dynasty. Also, Baratheons have a tendency to have strong and are not all strong, so I'd just link it to the graphical culture and make that give a higher chance of strong. Thanks for this, seems like a good idea - I take it I should also leave in the current event so new bloodline members also get it? As for the Baratheon being strong I get where you're coming from but I just can't think of a weak Baratheon, even Renly is actually pretty burly - though he was less muscular than Robert Garlan has to wear his armour not Loras because he just wasn't stocky enough which suggests that whilst he was slight compared to his brother he is still pretty stocky |
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Post by armok on Jan 22, 2019 21:52:19 GMT
With regards to strong and tall events, I would make an on_startup event that gives all of those in the bloodlines strong. After that set a condition for gaining the bloodline to: OR = { real_father_even_if_dead = { trait = tall/strong } real_mother_even_if_dead = { trait = tall/strong } } Which saves cuckold children from gaining the trait without actually being descended from the dynasty. Also, Baratheons have a tendency to have strong and are not all strong, so I'd just link it to the graphical culture and make that give a higher chance of strong. Pretty much all male Baratheons we know of are described as being built in the books. Robert was the beefiest for sure, and that is reflected in most of his bastards being built - all of the male ones are, and even Mya as a woman is tall and athletic - but even Stannis and Renly both are described as being large men, with Stannis towering above Jon Snow and Renly having an uncanny resemblance to Robert, despite being shorter (keep in mind he was still tall) and admittedly much thinner. I think it is fair to just give them all the strong trait, though I personally still think your case is valid. |
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