|
|
Post by rufff1 on Jan 24, 2019 23:09:00 GMT
So I don't think there's much grounds for a bloodlines for the Sunderlands, Marla was a rebel whose reign lasted at most a month or two and as you say the Skagosi are tricky as we know so little about them - hopefully I'll have something to add if we ever get WoW in the meantime I'll make a bloodline if you rebuild the shipyards of skagos as its all I can really think of Thanks! Yeah so Karstarks are a tricky one - I'm thinking maybe brawny rather than strong. GRRM seems so garbled on the karstarks, on one hand they look like the statues in the crypts and the non Tully looking Starks like Arya or Jon, but at the same time they are tall whereas Starks generally seem to be short - Robb and Ned are both shorter than Catelyn (Tullys are a fairly tall house admittedly - blackfish, hoster). Maybe the karstarks intermarried with their umber neighbours? So hard to tell whether the Starks is meant to be tall or not or whether its just a wide hips/narrow hips style inconsistency Ned is shorter than Catelyn? I know he's described as shorter and less handsome than his brother Brandon. Who wasn't short, described as just barely shorter than Robert Baratheon, so, 6'4"-6'5". Maybe that's the bigger heights for the Stark house though? My interpretation has been that the Karstarks are on average that size, like the statues seem to lead us towards thinking, maybe bigger if they married Umbers often. Brawny is fitting trait, being that far North, they'd need to be fit. Edit: maybe Wroth/ruthless to represent the fierce aspect? I'm fairly sure Ned is said to basically be catelyn's height or maybe a smidgeon shorter at one point in AGOT, can't be certain though Robb is definitely shorter than her even at 17. The wroth/ruthless I'd argue runs the risk of making them into a house of psychopaths who murder everyone under when under ai control, I have given wroth/cruel/torturer trait gain to a few bloodlines - The Mountain, Maegor, Bittersteel, The Boltons, but giving it to houses that are just a bit gruff just doesn't seem quite on the same level. Bearing in mind that the karstarks already have trait gain for mystic, greensight, wolves and direwolves I think adding brawny would be enough, anything more than that is kinda overkill tbh |
|
|
|
Post by lordumber93 on Jan 25, 2019 1:22:12 GMT
Ned is shorter than Catelyn? I know he's described as shorter and less handsome than his brother Brandon. Who wasn't short, described as just barely shorter than Robert Baratheon, so, 6'4"-6'5". Maybe that's the bigger heights for the Stark house though? My interpretation has been that the Karstarks are on average that size, like the statues seem to lead us towards thinking, maybe bigger if they married Umbers often. Brawny is fitting trait, being that far North, they'd need to be fit. Edit: maybe Wroth/ruthless to represent the fierce aspect? I'm fairly sure Ned is said to basically be catelyn's height or maybe a smidgeon shorter at one point in AGOT, can't be certain though Robb is definitely shorter than her even at 17. The wroth/ruthless I'd argue runs the risk of making them into a house of psychopaths who murder everyone under when under ai control, I have given wroth/cruel/torturer trait gain to a few bloodlines - The Mountain, Maegor, Bittersteel, The Boltons, but giving it to houses that are just a bit gruff just doesn't seem quite on the same level. Bearing in mind that the karstarks already have trait gain for mystic, greensight, wolves and direwolves I think adding brawny would be enough, anything more than that is kinda overkill tbh The best I can find on Robb's height is Catelyn saying "Catelyn watched her son mount up. Olyvar Frey held his horse for him, Lord Walder's son, two years older than Robb, and ten years younger and more anxious. He strapped Robb's shield in place and handed up his helm. When he lowered it over the face she loved so well, a tall young knight sat on his grey stallion where her son had been",so if Catelyn who is easily 5'10-6' describes Robb as tall, I'd put him at 6'0"-6'2", shorter than Jamie but bigger than Ned I'm not sure, heights in Asoiaf are weird sometimes. Hmmm, very good point. They don't seem to be on the same level as the Mountain or Ramsay. Thank you for taking the time to discuss it |
|
|
|
Post by verkos on Jan 25, 2019 4:49:13 GMT
Hello, really enjoy the mod, great work. I have been looking at the claim bloodlines,and am wondering how you designate them. I am asking as I wish to change the dorne bloodline to Mors, so that the Daynes don't get the claim to everything, while still keeping the nymeria bloodline on nymeria.
|
|
|
|
Post by epicmarkvan on Jan 25, 2019 7:02:11 GMT
I'm having a terrible time figuring out what determines who starts with a bloodline. Wanted to have my personal char I made via mod start out with the Targ Bloodline, but I just can't find what determines them starting with it. Can someone help me?
|
|
|
|
Post by rufff1 on Jan 25, 2019 9:04:15 GMT
I'm fairly sure Ned is said to basically be catelyn's height or maybe a smidgeon shorter at one point in AGOT, can't be certain though Robb is definitely shorter than her even at 17. The wroth/ruthless I'd argue runs the risk of making them into a house of psychopaths who murder everyone under when under ai control, I have given wroth/cruel/torturer trait gain to a few bloodlines - The Mountain, Maegor, Bittersteel, The Boltons, but giving it to houses that are just a bit gruff just doesn't seem quite on the same level. Bearing in mind that the karstarks already have trait gain for mystic, greensight, wolves and direwolves I think adding brawny would be enough, anything more than that is kinda overkill tbh The best I can find on Robb's height is Catelyn saying "Catelyn watched her son mount up. Olyvar Frey held his horse for him, Lord Walder's son, two years older than Robb, and ten years younger and more anxious. He strapped Robb's shield in place and handed up his helm. When he lowered it over the face she loved so well, a tall young knight sat on his grey stallion where her son had been",so if Catelyn who is easily 5'10-6' describes Robb as tall, I'd put him at 6'0"-6'2", shorter than Jamie but bigger than Ned I'm not sure, heights in Asoiaf are weird sometimes. Hmmm, very good point. They don't seem to be on the same level as the Mountain or Ramsay. Thank you for taking the time to discuss it Yeah can't find the quote I'm basing his height off atm - as you say heights in AGOT are definitely weird at times (like Jeynes hips and Renly's eyes lol) Hello, really enjoy the mod, great work. I have been looking at the claim bloodlines,and am wondering how you designate them. I am asking as I wish to change the dorne bloodline to Mors, so that the Daynes don't get the claim to everything, while still keeping the nymeria bloodline on nymeria. Fair enough on the Mors point - its a base AGOT bloodline so I hadn't tweaked it too much but the Dayne claim is not something they have pressed for centuries so I'll make Mors the founder to remove that I'm having a terrible time figuring out what determines who starts with a bloodline. Wanted to have my personal char I made via mod start out with the Targ Bloodline, but I just can't find what determines them starting with it. Can someone help me? you should be able to give a character a bloodline in a save file by going to the blooodlines list at the bottom, finding the right one and adding the character's ID to the members list  |
|
|
|
Post by thejackofspades151 on Jan 25, 2019 18:07:50 GMT
I'm having a terrible time figuring out what determines who starts with a bloodline. Wanted to have my personal char I made via mod start out with the Targ Bloodline, but I just can't find what determines them starting with it. Can someone help me? Isn't it easier to just use the trait House Customizer and affiliate your character with the Targ House??? That's what i did with my queen and the Starks and now she has their bloodline |
|
|
|
Post by utherdeyes on Jan 26, 2019 16:02:13 GMT
So I'm having a tough time getting this mod to work properly. I downloaded it and extracted it to the mod files, and it didn't show up in the Mod List when I launch CK2, then I tried extracting it to the AGOT Mod itself and it didn't show up then either. Any ideas what's going on?
|
|
aconda
Modder (CK2)
Posts: 376
|
Post by aconda on Jan 27, 2019 9:45:53 GMT
Could a King in the North or Lord of Winterfell recieve the dawnbreaker bloodline when pressing and winning the war for the dawn?
|
|
|
|
Post by rufff1 on Jan 27, 2019 10:22:54 GMT
So I'm having a tough time getting this mod to work properly. I downloaded it and extracted it to the mod files, and it didn't show up in the Mod List when I launch CK2, then I tried extracting it to the AGOT Mod itself and it didn't show up then either. Any ideas what's going on? Ok so there should be two things in the zip file, the folder called AGOT More Bloodlines and a MOD file with the same name, these both need to be extracted to \Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings II\mod as the MOD file is what tells the game to look for the mod. Also as you've pasted the mod contents into the AGOT folder you might want to do a fresh install of it. Could a King in the North or Lord of Winterfell recieve the dawnbreaker bloodline when pressing and winning the war for the dawn? so currently the dawnbreaker bloodline doesn't trigger as the way I implemented it was incorrect, I'm writing an event to trigger it which will be in the next update, anyone who wins the WftD should get the bloodline |
|
|
|
Post by utherdeyes on Jan 27, 2019 12:06:31 GMT
Done that, wiped all trace of it from my computer, did a fresh install and it still isn't showing up.
|
|
|
|
Post by rufff1 on Jan 27, 2019 12:24:20 GMT
Done that, wiped all trace of it from my computer, did a fresh install and it still isn't showing up. You're definitely putting it in the right folder and you're definitely downloading the mod not the Congenital Overhaul compatibility patch? |
|
|
|
Post by utherdeyes on Jan 27, 2019 23:13:35 GMT
Definitely. Even did a purge of all AGOT related mods, did a fresh install on all, still not showing up.
|
|
|
|
Post by rufff1 on Jan 27, 2019 23:28:53 GMT
Definitely. Even did a purge of all AGOT related mods, did a fresh install on all, still not showing up. That's bizarre, I've deleted it from my mod file, done a fresh install from the Dropbox link and it works perfectly fine, |
|
|
|
Post by utherdeyes on Jan 28, 2019 0:40:56 GMT
It really is. I'll try doing a full blown re-install of CK2. Really want this to work.
Edit: IT"S ALIVE! Somehow downloading ConGenOve and the compatibility patch before doing a re-install fixed it
|
|
|
|
Post by rufff1 on Jan 28, 2019 11:18:49 GMT
Just a little preview of what I'm tweaking at the moment: I've added in a special bloodline that is inherited by anyone descended from the Targaryens that gives a very slight boost with dragons, its small to reflect that the blood is mostly watered down, but they might have a slightly higher chance of pulling it off that a random person with no Targaryen in them. The bloodline is called a Drop of Dragon Blood and is inspired by Brown Ben Plumm, interestingly some very rogue houses have this bloodline - there is the obvious Velaryon, Baratheon, and Celtigar bloodline members but the Starks, Freys and Blackwoods all also have it because of House Blackwood having intermarried with the Baratheons  Also for House Plumm specifically I've given them a fairly standard bloodline for the house, but I've also given Viserys Plumm and his descendants a second bloodline with significantly higher dragon bonuses in recognition of his double targ heritage  |
|
