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Post by Kai on Nov 16, 2019 18:17:05 GMT
Okay so I was doing a little research on Lys and somehow I found myself reading about House Qoherys and was wondering if they are getting any attention in the next update. Seems kinda odd to me that one of the three recorded families that escaped THE DOOM™ doesn't have a bloodline. They should at least get the flat increase on dragon taming and hatching that the Velaryons get. Back to research for me though! And photoshop!
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Post by Elotyr on Nov 16, 2019 19:22:37 GMT
Okay so I was doing a little research on Lys and somehow I found myself reading about House Qoherys and was wondering if they are getting any attention in the next update. Seems kinda odd to me that one of the three recorded families that escaped THE DOOM™ doesn't have a bloodline. They should at least get the flat increase on dragon taming and hatching that the Velaryons get. Back to research for me though! And photoshop! They didn't became a house only during the conquest? With Aegon giving Harrenhal to the Maester-of-Arms in Dragonstone and all that. Searching for it i didn't get any mention of dragon riders or something like that among them, unlike the Velaryons. Talking about it i had similar thought about the people who can go behind the Black Wall in Volantis, the ones who can trace their blood all the way back to Old Valyria. Maybe a bloodline, for example "Blood of Old Valyria" with half the modifiers of "Blood of the Dragon" would be a good way to show this in game, fitting to the nobles of Volantis, Lys and minor houses in westeros like Qoherys and Celtigar? |
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 16, 2019 20:17:21 GMT
Okay so I was doing a little research on Lys and somehow I found myself reading about House Qoherys and was wondering if they are getting any attention in the next update. Seems kinda odd to me that one of the three recorded families that escaped THE DOOM™ doesn't have a bloodline. They should at least get the flat increase on dragon taming and hatching that the Velaryons get. Back to research for me though! And photoshop! I’m not sure the Qoheryses are nobles of Valyria like the Velaryons or Targaryens (after all the first Qoherys lord of Harrenhal was just master of Arms on Dragonstone, which is not a position reserved for the landed nobility) - I see them more as the nobility of Volantis who in the time of Valyria we’re just soldiers and civil servants from Valyria with no nobility who declared themselves nobles post Doom (by contrast the Velaryons were nobles with land holdings just were not part of the Forty Families of the Upper Nobility who controlled government and had dragons) I’m not against giving the Qoheryses a bloodline though and probably will but I don’t think any dragon bonuses besides their innate Valyrian culture gives them. |
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Post by Kai on Nov 16, 2019 22:18:55 GMT
Okay so I was doing a little research on Lys and somehow I found myself reading about House Qoherys and was wondering if they are getting any attention in the next update. Seems kinda odd to me that one of the three recorded families that escaped THE DOOM™ doesn't have a bloodline. They should at least get the flat increase on dragon taming and hatching that the Velaryons get. Back to research for me though! And photoshop! I’m not sure the Qoheryses are nobles of Valyria like the Velaryons or Targaryens (after all the first Qoherys lord of Harrenhal was just master of Arms on Dragonstone, which is not a position reserved for the landed nobility) - I see them more as the nobility of Volantis who in the time of Valyria we’re just soldiers and civil servants from Valyria with no nobility who declared themselves nobles post Doom (by contrast the Velaryons were nobles with land holdings just were not part of the Forty Families of the Upper Nobility who controlled government and had dragons) I’m not against giving the Qoheryses a bloodline though and probably will but I don’t think any dragon bonuses besides their innate Valyrian culture gives them. OH! Okay that makes sense. See, I always thought the Qoheryses ( <- ??? lol) were Valyrian minor nobles like the Velaryons. |
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 16, 2019 22:38:16 GMT
I’m not sure the Qoheryses are nobles of Valyria like the Velaryons or Targaryens (after all the first Qoherys lord of Harrenhal was just master of Arms on Dragonstone, which is not a position reserved for the landed nobility) - I see them more as the nobility of Volantis who in the time of Valyria we’re just soldiers and civil servants from Valyria with no nobility who declared themselves nobles post Doom (by contrast the Velaryons were nobles with land holdings just were not part of the Forty Families of the Upper Nobility who controlled government and had dragons) I’m not against giving the Qoheryses a bloodline though and probably will but I don’t think any dragon bonuses besides their innate Valyrian culture gives them. OH! Okay that makes sense. See, I always thought the Qoheryses ( <-  lol) were Valyrian minor nobles like the Velaryons. I'm thinking the bloodline effects: martial +1 combat rating +5 chance of duelist valyrian opinion +5 (valyrians stick together lol) |
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Post by vontywin on Nov 18, 2019 4:50:19 GMT
I can't seem to get the submod to work. Am I doing something wrong?
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Post by etnies89 on Nov 18, 2019 5:49:12 GMT
I can't seem to get the submod to work. Am I doing something wrong? do you have any other submods on? |
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Post by Ara on Nov 19, 2019 21:24:05 GMT
I don't know if someone already asked, but..why Ned Stark don't have a bloodline?
I mean, it could be too much bloodlines for House Stark, but Ned really should have one. The north is loyal and are fighting the Bolton and are willing to install a savage child because of him and there's the whole "The North Remembers", he's basically the Jaehaerys of the North
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 19, 2019 22:51:20 GMT
I don't know if someone already asked, but..why Ned Stark don't have a bloodline? I mean, it could be too much bloodlines for House Stark, but Ned really should have one. The north is loyal and are fighting the Bolton and are willing to install a savage child because of him and there's the whole "The North Remembers", he's basically the Jaehaerys of the North Thing is I can see the North doing that for basically any Stark who was dispossessed and replaced, the whole "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell" idea reflects the view that the North is simply not the North without the Starks to lead them so I don't view the GNC as a particularly Neddish phenomenon, Ned was a great character and notable general but to me at least the North rising up would happen for any other Stark also |
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Post by kappa on Nov 20, 2019 5:18:46 GMT
Was any thought put into whether or not the dragonseeds should have bloodlines?
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Post by cvinicius on Nov 20, 2019 13:00:19 GMT
Since carcosa will be in but the winged city not, are you planning to put also the other semi-legendary places of far east like k'dath, bonetown and cities of bloodless men? |
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 20, 2019 13:09:47 GMT
Since carcosa will be in but the winged city not, are you planning to put also the other semi-legendary places of far east like k'dath, bonetown and cities of bloodless men? thinks he has some files for Mossovy from a previous project saved somewhere which might be added in, the shrikes and the bloodless men are quite weird and would be a whole project in of themselves probably and that probably also rules out K'Dath (which would also need a brand new religion with lore which could get fiddly), Bonetown wouldn't be too hard - give them a new culture but put them as gods of Nefer or something then have a unique "Bone Quarry" building for some flavour, so I can see us adding in Mossovy and Bonetown but not the rest of the Far Far East |
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Post by cvinicius on Nov 20, 2019 14:12:55 GMT
Since carcosa will be in but the winged city not, are you planning to put also the other semi-legendary places of far east like k'dath, bonetown and cities of bloodless men? thinks he has some files for Mossovy from a previous project saved somewhere which might be added in, the shrikes and the bloodless men are quite weird and would be a whole project in of themselves probably and that probably also rules out K'Dath (which would also need a brand new religion with lore which could get fiddly), Bonetown wouldn't be too hard - give them a new culture but put them as gods of Nefer or something then have a unique "Bone Quarry" building for some flavour, so I can see us adding in Mossovy and Bonetown but not the rest of the Far Far East I was thinking those cities could be where the raiders of grey waste come, so their culture could be used for all those cities, and k'dath rituals could be like the aztec ones. But since all of them have little lore, cultures and religions with no special things outside some few events like the rituals would be fine to add more flavour to the far east. |
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Post by Kai on Nov 20, 2019 17:03:02 GMT
Was any thought put into whether or not the dragonseeds should have bloodlines? I'm not part of the team behind the mod but I do have a good amount of knowledge regarding the lore of the ASOIAF setting. I unfortunately, despite the fact that I personally would love for them to have bloodlines, don't believe that most the Dragonseeds should have special bloodlines. Hugh Hammer (badass house name) bonded with Vermithor (dragon of Jaeherys I) and betrayed The Blacks during the Battle of Tumbleton with Ulf White. Hugh was killed during Battle of Tumbleton 2: Electric Boogaloo. Ulf White bonded with Silverwing and died shortly after Tumbleton 2 from poisoned wine Addam Velaryon should at least get the "Dragon Rider" bloodline that Jacaerys Velaryon has Alyn Velaryon already has "The OAKENFIST" bloodline Nettles threw sheep at sheepstealer hoping her efforts in pleasing the beast enough to allow her to ride would pay off. She was a lover of Daemon Targaryen and fled on Sheepstealer shortly before the Battle Over the Gods Eye. Nettles is interesting because she is rumored to have become a hermit in the Vale. I could see her possibly getting a bloodline during her exile. The Dragonseeds are my favorite part of the Dance of Dragons bookmark. I always bro it up with Ulf, Hugh, and Nettles and give them lands in my domain (that they hoped they would get for participating (Ulf wanted Highgarden...who DOESNT want Highgarden)) if they survive |
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 20, 2019 17:51:41 GMT
Was any thought put into whether or not the dragonseeds should have bloodlines? I'm not part of the team behind the mod but I do have a good amount of knowledge regarding the lore of the ASOIAF setting. I unfortunately, despite the fact that I personally would love for them to have bloodlines, don't believe that most the Dragonseeds should have special bloodlines. Hugh Hammer (badass house name) bonded with Vermithor (dragon of Jaeherys I) and betrayed The Blacks during the Battle of Tumbleton with Ulf White. Hugh was killed during Battle of Tumbleton 2: Electric Boogaloo. Ulf White bonded with Silverwing and died shortly after Tumbleton 2 from poisoned wine Addam Velaryon should at least get the "Dragon Rider" bloodline that Jacaerys Velaryon has Alyn Velaryon already has "The OAKENFIST" bloodline Nettles threw sheep at sheepstealer hoping her efforts in pleasing the beast enough to allow her to ride would pay off. She was a lover of Daemon Targaryen and fled on Sheepstealer shortly before the Battle Over the Gods Eye. Nettles is interesting because she is rumored to have become a hermit in the Vale. I could see her possibly getting a bloodline during her exile. The Dragonseeds are my favorite part of the Dance of Dragons bookmark. I always bro it up with Ulf, Hugh, and Nettles and give them lands in my domain (that they hoped they would get for participating (Ulf wanted Highgarden...who DOESNT want Highgarden)) if they survive We have added in the ability to find a sheepstealer egg in the mountains of the Moon in the next update which is fun. As for the dragon seed bloodlines - maybe, perhaps a dragontaming bonus as they are meant to be Targ descendants but lack the bloodlines that go with the Targs, maybe a strong trait gain for Hugh. As for nettles some learning maybe and her gfx needs changing given her description, also I’m one of those who thinks that she’s actually Daemons daughter not his lover so might add that in maybe |
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lol) were Valyrian minor nobles like the Velaryons. 
