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Post by Kai on Nov 20, 2019 18:51:16 GMT
I'm not part of the team behind the mod but I do have a good amount of knowledge regarding the lore of the ASOIAF setting. I unfortunately, despite the fact that I personally would love for them to have bloodlines, don't believe that most the Dragonseeds should have special bloodlines. Hugh Hammer (badass house name) bonded with Vermithor (dragon of Jaeherys I) and betrayed The Blacks during the Battle of Tumbleton with Ulf White. Hugh was killed during Battle of Tumbleton 2: Electric Boogaloo. Ulf White bonded with Silverwing and died shortly after Tumbleton 2 from poisoned wine Addam Velaryon should at least get the "Dragon Rider" bloodline that Jacaerys Velaryon has Alyn Velaryon already has "The OAKENFIST" bloodline Nettles threw sheep at sheepstealer hoping her efforts in pleasing the beast enough to allow her to ride would pay off. She was a lover of Daemon Targaryen and fled on Sheepstealer shortly before the Battle Over the Gods Eye. Nettles is interesting because she is rumored to have become a hermit in the Vale. I could see her possibly getting a bloodline during her exile. The Dragonseeds are my favorite part of the Dance of Dragons bookmark. I always bro it up with Ulf, Hugh, and Nettles and give them lands in my domain (that they hoped they would get for participating (Ulf wanted Highgarden...who DOESNT want Highgarden)) if they survive We have added in the ability to find a sheepstealer egg in the mountains of the Moon in the next update which is fun. As for the dragon seed bloodlines - maybe, perhaps a dragontaming bonus as they are meant to be Targ descendants but lack the bloodlines that go with the Targs, maybe a strong trait gain for Hugh. As for nettles some learning maybe and her gfx needs changing given her description, also I’m one of those who thinks that she’s actually Daemons daughter not his lover so might add that in maybe This sounds awesome!! Wish there was more info about what Nettles was doing in the Vale and what happened to Sheepstealer as neither death has been confirmed...what has been confirmed though is that 16 men died when King Dragonbane sent men to the Vale to try to apprehend her XD I've actually tweaked the dragonrider bloodline myself in past games and given it to Nettles, Hugh, and Ulf as well as removing the claim that Hugh and Ulf get on the Iron Throne since they have no claim besides "I have a dragon lol" <- which is a valid claim...but you're gonna get rekt unless you blitz Kings Landing before the Iron Throne can organize it's 25K+ strong army. As for Nettles being his daughter not lover...why not both? lol they're Targs, it's what they do XD |
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 20, 2019 19:05:29 GMT
We have added in the ability to find a sheepstealer egg in the mountains of the Moon in the next update which is fun. As for the dragon seed bloodlines - maybe, perhaps a dragontaming bonus as they are meant to be Targ descendants but lack the bloodlines that go with the Targs, maybe a strong trait gain for Hugh. As for nettles some learning maybe and her gfx needs changing given her description, also I’m one of those who thinks that she’s actually Daemons daughter not his lover so might add that in maybe This sounds awesome!! Wish there was more info about what Nettles was doing in the Vale and what happened to Sheepstealer as neither death has been confirmed...what has been confirmed though is that 16 men died when King Dragonbane sent men to the Vale to try to apprehend her XD I've actually tweaked the dragonrider bloodline myself in past games and given it to Nettles, Hugh, and Ulf as well as removing the claim that Hugh and Ulf get on the Iron Throne since they have no claim besides "I have a dragon lol" <- which is a valid claim...but you're gonna get rekt unless you blitz Kings Landing before the Iron Throne can organize it's 25K+ strong army. As for Nettles being his daughter not lover...why not both? lol they're Targs, it's what they do XD I think it’s implied that she founded the Burned Men tribe and they worshipped her as a God lol. |
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Post by Elotyr on Nov 20, 2019 19:37:06 GMT
We have added in the ability to find a sheepstealer egg in the mountains of the Moon in the next update which is fun. As for the dragon seed bloodlines - maybe, perhaps a dragontaming bonus as they are meant to be Targ descendants but lack the bloodlines that go with the Targs, maybe a strong trait gain for Hugh. As for nettles some learning maybe and her gfx needs changing given her description, also I’m one of those who thinks that she’s actually Daemons daughter not his lover so might add that in maybe This sounds awesome!! Wish there was more info about what Nettles was doing in the Vale and what happened to Sheepstealer as neither death has been confirmed...what has been confirmed though is that 16 men died when King Dragonbane sent men to the Vale to try to apprehend her XD I've actually tweaked the dragonrider bloodline myself in past games and given it to Nettles, Hugh, and Ulf as well as removing the claim that Hugh and Ulf get on the Iron Throne since they have no claim besides "I have a dragon lol" <- which is a valid claim...but you're gonna get rekt unless you blitz Kings Landing before the Iron Throne can organize it's 25K+ strong army. As for Nettles being his daughter not lover...why not both? lol they're Targs, it's what they do XD I would also say the "Why not both?" line, but still a bit traumatized with Aegon IV and Jeyne Lothson implications, like WTF Martin lol About Nettles i always tought that after spending sometime in the Vale she just crossed to Essos and got in some high jinks around the Dothraki Sea,my head-canon is that the Dragon Skeleton Dany finds in her travel was actually Sheepstealer  |
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 20, 2019 21:24:11 GMT
This sounds awesome!! Wish there was more info about what Nettles was doing in the Vale and what happened to Sheepstealer as neither death has been confirmed...what has been confirmed though is that 16 men died when King Dragonbane sent men to the Vale to try to apprehend her XD I've actually tweaked the dragonrider bloodline myself in past games and given it to Nettles, Hugh, and Ulf as well as removing the claim that Hugh and Ulf get on the Iron Throne since they have no claim besides "I have a dragon lol" <- which is a valid claim...but you're gonna get rekt unless you blitz Kings Landing before the Iron Throne can organize it's 25K+ strong army. As for Nettles being his daughter not lover...why not both? lol they're Targs, it's what they do XD I would also say the "Why not both?" line, but still a bit traumatized with Aegon IV and Jeyne Lothson implications, like WTF Martin lol About Nettles i always tought that after spending sometime in the Vale she just crossed to Essos and got in some high jinks around the Dothraki Sea,my head-canon is that the Dragon Skeleton Dany finds in her travel was actually Sheepstealer IIRC its heavily implied she essentially founds the Burned Men Mountain Clan tribe and ruled over them as their fire sorceress/god/chief |
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Post by Elotyr on Nov 20, 2019 22:24:40 GMT
I would also say the "Why not both?" line, but still a bit traumatized with Aegon IV and Jeyne Lothson implications, like WTF Martin lol About Nettles i always tought that after spending sometime in the Vale she just crossed to Essos and got in some high jinks around the Dothraki Sea,my head-canon is that the Dragon Skeleton Dany finds in her travel was actually Sheepstealer IIRC its heavily implied she essentially founds the Burned Men Mountain Clan tribe and ruled over them as their fire sorceress/god/chief Yes i went seeking for that after the post, but she staying there long term is what i question, founding the burned man and ruling them for a while? Sure, but like, Dragons have a really big lifespam if she remanied in the Mountais of the Moon until her death would not be reports of a Wild Dragon running about in there the years after? Also i don't see the Targaryens with their Dragons dying out just letting the opportunity to find a new one in Westeros pass easily. That is why i go with the move to Essos thinking, even if the dragons hidden in the Mountains of the Moon is really a awesome concept xD |
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Post by istoledacake on Nov 21, 2019 11:01:41 GMT
Hey, Shouldnt Benjicot 'Bloody Ben' Blackwood a bloodline? Hes one of the lads, and was in a number of the major battles of the dance.
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 21, 2019 11:10:59 GMT
Hey, Shouldnt Benjicot 'Bloody Ben' Blackwood a bloodline? Hes one of the lads, and was in a number of the major battles of the dance. Yeah good point |
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Post by istoledacake on Nov 21, 2019 12:07:46 GMT
Hey, Shouldnt Benjicot 'Bloody Ben' Blackwood a bloodline? Hes one of the lads, and was in a number of the major battles of the dance. Yeah good point House Peake has good candidates as well. Unwin Peake plays a major role in the early years of Aegon III and was likely behind the Lysene Spring incident. Not to mention he was one of the Caltrops and general for the greens. Gormon Peake II was involved in the Blackfyre rebellions, fighting in one and attempting to instigate a second. |
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 21, 2019 13:13:06 GMT
House Peake has good candidates as well. Unwin Peake plays a major role in the early years of Aegon III and was likely behind the Lysene Spring incident. Not to mention he was one of the Caltrops and general for the greens. Gormon Peake II was involved in the Blackfyre rebellions, fighting in one and attempting to instigate a second. If you can come up with a Florent and a mainline Ball (not fireball) who also deserves one fine - I don’t want the Peakes to have more BLs than the other lines of Florys the Fox |
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Post by Kai on Nov 21, 2019 16:09:43 GMT
Hey, Shouldnt Benjicot 'Bloody Ben' Blackwood a bloodline? Hes one of the lads, and was in a number of the major battles of the dance. I thought he had a bloodline!! Omfg "The Lads" are 10/10 characters imo. Just had to throw that out there lol. So many great characters in this lore. Alysanne 'Black Aly' Blackwood is one of my favorites. |
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 21, 2019 16:59:43 GMT
Hey, Shouldnt Benjicot 'Bloody Ben' Blackwood a bloodline? Hes one of the lads, and was in a number of the major battles of the dance. I thought he had a bloodline!! Omfg "The Lads" are 10/10 characters imo. Just had to throw that out there lol. So many great characters in this lore. Alysanne 'Black Aly' Blackwood is one of my favorites. Kermit and Aly have bloodlines tbf, but yeah Bloody Ben needs one - and also thinking about it the Grey(?) who killed the Lord of Casterly Rock |
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Post by caeserion on Nov 21, 2019 23:22:03 GMT
I thought he had a bloodline!! Omfg "The Lads" are 10/10 characters imo. Just had to throw that out there lol. So many great characters in this lore. Alysanne 'Black Aly' Blackwood is one of my favorites. Kermit and Aly have bloodlines tbf, but yeah Bloody Ben needs one - and also thinking about it the Grey(?) who killed the Lord of Casterly Rock Grey? Lord Jason Lannister was slain by Ser Pate of Longleaf (he was knighted after he slew him), afterwards called Longleaf the Lionslayer. Unless you're talking about another Lord of Casterly Rock entirely? |
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Post by onyxhaider on Nov 22, 2019 1:41:00 GMT
There may be a problem with durrandon bloodline it seems argilac and his daughter don't have strong seed bloodline.
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 22, 2019 2:03:15 GMT
Kermit and Aly have bloodlines tbf, but yeah Bloody Ben needs one - and also thinking about it the Grey(?) who killed the Lord of Casterly Rock Grey? Lord Jason Lannister was slain by Ser Pate of Longleaf (he was knighted after he slew him), afterwards called Longleaf the Lionslayer. Unless you're talking about another Lord of Casterly Rock entirely? Ah yes, you're right, I was merging Pate and Garibald Grey in my head, Garibald was the one with the awesome line at Butchers Ball where he tells Criston Cole "I made my promise to the dead. I told them I would built a sept for them out of traitors' bones. I don't have near enough bones yet, so ..." and then they order Cole to be shot. I'll give both Pate and Garibald bloodlines for their awesomeness |
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Post by istoledacake on Nov 22, 2019 3:38:03 GMT
House Peake has good candidates as well. Unwin Peake plays a major role in the early years of Aegon III and was likely behind the Lysene Spring incident. Not to mention he was one of the Caltrops and general for the greens. Gormon Peake II was involved in the Blackfyre rebellions, fighting in one and attempting to instigate a second. If you can come up with a Florent and a mainline Ball (not fireball) who also deserves one fine - I don’t want the Peakes to have more BLs than the other lines of Florys the Fox Ah that sucks, there isn't much written about the Florent's & Ball's. But doesn't it make sense to give the Peake's more bloodlines? Unwin is described as bejng descendent from: Ser Urrathon the Shieldsmasher, Lord Meryn the Scribe, Lady Yrma of the Golden Bowl, Ser Barquen the Besieger, Lord Eddison the Elder, Lord Eddison the Younger, and Lord Emerick the Avenger. But if not character specific bloodlines maybe general ones? Like the ones given to Bracken, Blackwood and Strong? |
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