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Post by rufff1 on Feb 18, 2019 7:47:21 GMT
Good to hear you found the conflict - so had a look at portrait replacer, it works by applying a hidden trait to characters that overwrites their portrait with an image. the issue is they add the traits in history files and my mod adds bloodlines via the history files so there are two copies of history files which conflict with one another. It will take a while but you could make them compatible by merging the two history files - if you have the compare plugin in notepad++ you can load both files side by side and compare differences between them - you'd need to do this for each pair of history files. then once you've merged them delete one, and as there would only be one history file things would then be compatible. Also a second conflict - and this is why as you mentioned on reddit Jon's bloodline isn't firing for you - Portrait Replacer also modifies the tower_of_joy_events file (I'm assuming to make sure Jon gets his portrait), in my Mod Jon's bloodline is forged via an event in this file, so they would also need to be merged to ensure the bloodline can be created Really sorry to keep bugging you with this, but the merge wasn't as successful as I hoped. It seemed to work for every house except for the Starks. So I merged them, and saved the merge to your mod's directory, deleting the unmerged copy from the Portrait Replacer directory. Boot up the game, none of the Portraits are showing up. If I put the merged files in both directories, then Portraits/bloodlines pop up for everyone... except for the Starks. The Stark dynasty for some reason completely disappears. If I go into history, it looks like the Starks died out with Rickard's grandfather. No idea what is causing this - I merged the North file like all the others, and have been over it three times, and nothing seems out of place. Any ideas what my next step should be? Post the north file and the north_ancestors file
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Post by tomasisko on Feb 18, 2019 14:01:07 GMT
Firstly thank you for your mod but I have question, It is possible to child get only bloodlines from one parent because in Matr. Marriage child have bloodlines from both parents ? In classic marriage child get only father bloodlines so that is fine.
Thank for respond.
Edit: and Q2, in next update will you lower chance to get bloodlines trait (Umber - Strong/Tall etc.) ?
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Post by clubbalang on Feb 18, 2019 14:55:43 GMT
Here you go: www.dropbox.com/sh/srkj69v29keyvrc/AACbhmcXIt1MeeRX7GNPwOFLa?dl=0. I didn't change the north_ancestor file at all from your mod because the Portrait mod didn't change it. I went through combining them again (resulting in the merged version of north.txt I uploaded), and still no dice - if deleted from Portrait mod folder, no portraits show up. If copied to both your mod and portrait mod, the Starks disappear. I find it weird I made the exact mistake twice now with this file, producing the exact same glitch, but I went over it again and still can't see where I went wrong. Absolutely no rush here, but if you do get a chance to take a look, let me know if you're seeing something I'm not. If you need the rest of my merged files, let me know. I went through all the history-character files in the portrait mod, merged them with your mod, and they all seem to be working correctly. It's just the damn North.
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Post by rufff1 on Feb 18, 2019 17:14:07 GMT
Firstly thank you for your mod but I have question, It is possible to child get only bloodlines from one parent because in Matr. Marriage child have bloodlines from both parents ? In classic marriage child get only father bloodlines so that is fine. Thank for respond. Edit: and Q2, in next update will you lower chance to get bloodlines trait (Umber - Strong/Tall etc.) ? So bloodline inheritance is largely hardcoded, you can add to it, but you can't (as far as I am aware) get it so a patrilineal bloodline isn't passed on by a father. On top of that, that would make accumulating bloodlines impossible, which I don't think would be too popular. As for your second question, currently in the mod the strong, tall, and fair bloodlines are basically inevitable. Unless a character is secretly a bastard, weak, ugly, or a dwarf they will gain the trait from their bloodline when they are born, when the scenario is initialised and randomly as maintenance. This is largely because all the Umbers, Baratheons, Crakehalls etc we have ever met (even if you roll back 300 years+ to Argilac the Arrogant) have been strong, etc. So yes its not exactly true to real world genetics, but it is true to the world GRRM wrote with dragons, magic and ancestors who supposedly look the same several hundred years apart. On top of this it also works as quite a neat way of giving earlier Umbers, Mormonts, Crakehalls etc the strong trait without needing to faff in the history files.
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Post by malgoth on Feb 18, 2019 21:39:25 GMT
Great job rufff1, really great mod you made. Thank you a lot for the time you put in it, but I'm curious about how do you choose which house get bloodline and which is not? For example, house Penrose is one of main houses of the stormlands, even got targaryen princess, Elaena, one time, and Aelinor Penrose was queen consort of Aerys I, still, they have no bloodline, but small house like Dondarrion has it. I'm not criticising, just asking, you still the best!
Thank you for your time.
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Post by rufff1 on Feb 18, 2019 22:12:54 GMT
Great job rufff1, really great mod you made. Thank you a lot for the time you put in it, but I'm curious about how do you choose which house get bloodline and which is not? For example, house Penrose is one of main houses of the stormlands, even got targaryen princess, Elaena, one time, and Aelinor Penrose was queen consort of Aerys I, still, they have no bloodline, but small house like Dondarrion has it. I'm not criticising, just asking, you still the best! Thank you for your time. Thanks, glad to hear you like it Yeah choosing a house for a bloodline is haaaaaaaaaard, the Stormlands in particular are tricky because we know surprisingly little about the noble houses from there. If we compare it to the Reach, we have a nice little story about each of Garth Greenhand's children which gives us background to roughly 18 houses, or the Vale we have stories of the struggle between the First Men and the Andals which gives us about 10 houses, but the Stormlands' history is almost entirely centred around the Durrandons and Baratheons. For most houses in Westeros we know if they were founded by Andals or First Men, what notable deeds they've done, etc etc. For the Stormlands we don't have any information about the histories of most houses until at least the Conquest. This makes things tricky when it comes to actually deciding bloodlines - sure we know who big houses are but what is their house known for? To give you an example the next update adds a bloodline for House Moreland of the Westerlands, a house which has had almost no effect on the main books, but we know their founder was a legendary hero called Pate the Plowman, who seemed to have brought new land under cultivation, hence their name, this makes it easy to localise the bloodline and give them an appropriate characteristic which is a +1 stewardship. Another example - house Upcliff, also pretty minor in the books but their founder was a famous witch, so +1 intrigue and chance to become a mystic. But when you get to the Stormlands where the histories of Houses are much lesser than other kingdsoms of Westeros (genuinely the Iron Islands and Stormlands sections of WOIAF are some of the sparsest chapters in the book) things become trickier. The Tarths and Marcher Lords are just about doable because we know the Tarths ruled as First Men Kings and may be descended from Galladon of Morne, and the Marcher Lords hold the frontier so martial boost and dislike of Dornish are logical bonuses for them, also in the case of House Dondarrion they actually have a foundation myth which further makes things easier. So the issue is what bonuses and traits would merit the Penroses? Cortnay is brave, but is that normal for his House? Are they known to be good soldiers? Good administrators? Good diplomats? The information we have about them is their sigil, their words, that Ronnel Penrose was Master of Coin but Elaena did all the work, and then some mentions in the Blackfyre Rebellion and a brief appearance at Ashford. It gets worse with other Stormlander houses where if we had more info I'd love to give them bloodlines (and pretty much the same for the Skagosi and Iron Islanders tbh) like House Estermont, House Rogers, House Buckler, House Cafferen, House Lonmouth, House Morrigen, House Trant etc, most of these houses we know even less about, so making an appropriate bloodline is basically impossible, even though they seem important enough that they should have one. I think I'll give the Penroses a bloodline with a +1 martial and a chance of brave for the next update, but its quite a stretch, when you compare it to houses we know far more about.
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Post by blackfyreboy on Feb 18, 2019 23:07:55 GMT
The more bloodlines, the better
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Post by wurzeldieb on Feb 20, 2019 1:45:05 GMT
are the bloodline effects for dragon hatching and taming working? i think you need to edit either the "dragon_events.txt" file or add the flag "blood_of_the_dragon" like the vanilla bloodlines
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Post by blackfyreboy on Feb 20, 2019 2:33:15 GMT
are the bloodline effects for dragon hatching and taming working? i think you need to edit either the "dragon_events.txt" file or add the flag "blood_of_the_dragon" like the vanilla bloodlines I have never, ever, seen a Targaryen fail taming.
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Post by utherdeyes on Feb 21, 2019 5:29:40 GMT
Aegon the Fifth if he manages to hatch his egg never tames it and it usually kills most of his family
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Post by aconda on Feb 22, 2019 15:14:26 GMT
Hi! ^-^
What are the requirements for a High Valyrian bastard son/daughter to spawn their own and therefor, their new dynasty's "Blood of the Dragon" Bloodline?
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Post by rufff1 on Feb 22, 2019 15:29:30 GMT
Hi! ^-^ What are the requirements for a High Valyrian bastard son/daughter to spawn their own and therefor, their new dynasty's "Blood of the Dragon" Bloodline? So the blood of the dragon bloodline is a vanilla bloodline, so not fully sure how it's created - I think it's just for valyrian dragon riding dynasties? The "a drop of dragon blood" that will be added in the next More Bloodlines update is set to all inheritance, so any descendants of house targaryen be they bastards or descended in the female line will have it - hence it's really small bonus wise, it's meant to just be a faint affinity for dragons.
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Post by bloodstonesdragon on Feb 26, 2019 2:21:19 GMT
Hi! ^-^ What are the requirements for a High Valyrian bastard son/daughter to spawn their own and therefor, their new dynasty's "Blood of the Dragon" Bloodline? You can always use the event command to gain the bloodline. Its highvalyrian.1
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Post by aconda on Feb 27, 2019 1:13:29 GMT
Hi! ^-^ What are the requirements for a High Valyrian bastard son/daughter to spawn their own and therefor, their new dynasty's "Blood of the Dragon" Bloodline? You can always use the event command to gain the bloodline. Its highvalyrian.1 I suspect there's either a bug in my installation with combining alot of mods or, something prevents the blood of the dragon bloodline to fire off for bastards. So far 1 in 5 times it happens, so it's possibe, but it's really unclear what requirements are needed, it seems inconsistent. Any new dynasty with a High Valyrian culture should trigger it and it has maintenance checks that prevent stacking. In a matrilineal marriage, the boodline transfer from the mother's side should have presidence over the father's, if the father has a blood of the dragon line aswell.
Realistically..... dragonbond genetics doesn't follow the man made rule of patrilineal inheritance only, it's just that the game would have the potential to become kind of messed up faster if it was different. A tier based system might be interesting though, 10 levels of blood of the dragon, level 10=100% and level 1 is drop of dragon blood. ^-^
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Post by Rasputin on Mar 4, 2019 14:18:12 GMT
an update pleease?
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