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Post by Visi on Sept 1, 2019 19:27:07 GMT
It would just be nice due to the negative effects they have on dragons. It's easy enough to edit a save file and remove them from the holding, but I think providing an in-game option to destroy them is pretty reasonable.
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Post by Azrael on Sept 1, 2019 23:27:04 GMT
It would just be nice due to the negative effects they have on dragons. It's easy enough to edit a save file and remove them from the holding, but I think providing an in-game option to destroy them is pretty reasonable. Unless a dragon has the locked in the dragon pit modifier, I don't think dragons receive the negative effects in a location with a dragon pit built. |
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Post by Visi on Sept 2, 2019 1:30:50 GMT
It would just be nice due to the negative effects they have on dragons. It's easy enough to edit a save file and remove them from the holding, but I think providing an in-game option to destroy them is pretty reasonable. Unless a dragon has the locked in the dragon pit modifier, I don't think dragons receive the negative effects in a location with a dragon pit built. Wait, is that true? I always just assumed the effects would impact any dragon located in that county. |
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Post by erbkaiser on Sept 2, 2019 6:52:54 GMT
It's true, a dragon has to be locked in the pit for it to affect it. A locked up dragon lives shorter and grows slower, but he will not be able to rampage or fly away.
Volcanoes, on the other hand, affect all dragons in the province.
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Post by Karl on Sept 2, 2019 15:20:41 GMT
Azrael appears to be correct from what I can tell. Here's the growth modifier:
modifier = {
factor = 0.75
has_character_modifier = locked_in_dragonpit
}
(A Game of Thrones\events\dragon_events.txt lines 3364-3367)
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Post by Visi on Sept 2, 2019 21:25:51 GMT
Well I'll be. Thank you for the information, gents! My suggestion is henceforth retracted, and any mod that stumbles across this should feel free to lock it. ^_^
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Post by Karl on Oct 1, 2019 13:38:02 GMT
I discovered something to add to this: while the growth modifier will only apply to dragons actually locked in the dragon pit, newly hatched dragons are always negatively affected by a dragon pit.
Dragons hatched without a dragon pit have a 2% chance of being sickly, and a 5% chance of being strong. However, dragons hatched with a dragon pit have an 8% chance of being hatched sickly, and only a 2% chance of being strong.
Note that they will also automatically be locked in the dragon pit when they are hatched.
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Post by aconda on Oct 1, 2019 15:25:22 GMT
I discovered something to add to this: while the growth modifier will only apply to dragons actually locked in the dragon pit, newly hatched dragons are always negatively affected by a dragon pit. Dragons hatched without a dragon pit have a 2% chance of being sickly, and a 5% chance of being strong. However, dragons hatched with a dragon pit have an 8% chance of being hatched sickly, and only a 2% chance of being strong. Note that they will also automatically be locked in the dragon pit when they are hatched. Yeah i always have to rightclick on a dragon to take them out of the dragonpit.
Doing a quick simulation kind of shows that adding an event for the player to choose at birth seems obsolete. Since it adds more calculations to the game and the AI would still always choose to put them in a dragonpit like as it is now.
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Post by Karl on Oct 1, 2019 23:15:24 GMT
I discovered something to add to this: while the growth modifier will only apply to dragons actually locked in the dragon pit, newly hatched dragons are always negatively affected by a dragon pit. Dragons hatched without a dragon pit have a 2% chance of being sickly, and a 5% chance of being strong. However, dragons hatched with a dragon pit have an 8% chance of being hatched sickly, and only a 2% chance of being strong. Note that they will also automatically be locked in the dragon pit when they are hatched. Yeah i always have to rightclick on a dragon to take them out of the dragonpit. Doing a quick simulation kind of shows that adding an event for the player to choose at birth seems obsolete. Since it adds more calculations to the game and the AI would still always choose to put them in a dragonpit like as it is now.
Well, if it were only the matter of right-clicking dragons to take them out of the dragon pit after hatching then it would be no big deal. But four times as likely to be sickly, and less than half as likely to be strong? That's a bit more annoying. |
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Post by aconda on Oct 2, 2019 0:19:52 GMT
Yeah i always have to rightclick on a dragon to take them out of the dragonpit. Doing a quick simulation kind of shows that adding an event for the player to choose at birth seems obsolete. Since it adds more calculations to the game and the AI would still always choose to put them in a dragonpit like as it is now.
Well, if it were only the matter of right-clicking dragons to take them out of the dragon pit after hatching then it would be no big deal. But four times as likely to be sickly, and less than half as likely to be strong? That's a bit more annoying. Yes that part is annoying, might not be a bug and even looks realistic enough but i do agree on the annoying part for sure. |
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