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Post by valery on Aug 24, 2019 9:02:39 GMT
Don't know if it was offered before but I have an idea for a technology sub-mod that starts in circa 8305 and slowly spreads cultural and maybe economical inventions. Would it be possible or it doesn't make sense with current ugrade system?
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southpark634
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Post by southpark634 on Aug 24, 2019 9:20:27 GMT
Technology wouldn't really make sense in lore as things have been relatively the same in terms of technology for thousands of years. The only times technology changed in Westeros were on the arrival of the First Men, then the arrival of the Andals, then there may have been some SLIGHT changes just after Aegon's Conquest - but technology itself doesn't really advance. After 8000 years, Westeros is basically the same - a feudal society ruled by lords and kings.
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Post by seahorse on Sept 8, 2019 10:43:27 GMT
I'm not sure if technology evolution would make sense, but maybe cultural ones do? Like, I don't know, maybe if Aegon after the conquest keeps his Valyrian religion the people would slowly start tolerating it and after some years they would actually start converting, the septons losing their power and influence.
Maybe if a mighty female ruler stays in power for a really long time, or maybe a lot of Queens rule one after the other, the tolerance would increase bit by bit.
As per the construction technologies, maybe when you upgrade your castles/cities you can unlock the technologies so the building time is reduced or something like that.
That kind of things could be nice, although I don't know if it can be included through technology mechanics or maybe something else.
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Post by rufff1 on Sept 8, 2019 13:05:20 GMT
Westeros has changed significantly in terms of technology, the steady state of most of the political entities of Westeros disguises this fact. Westeros develops slightly slower than the real world did but it is developing, some examples: Southern Westeros is clearly in an early modern period of historical development with renaissance levels of technology (minus the gunpowder) you have advance banking and a growing merchant class in the cities (who some nobles are beginning to marry as landholding becomes less lucrative- westerlings, arryns, corbrays), you have a renaissance rather than medieval level of armour manufacturing with elaborate plate and enamelled armour, yes the North has missed out on a lot of these developments but in the same way that the renaissance came late to Scotland and Scandinavia.
Dunk and Egg is in a more High medieval level of technology, the armour styles are more old fashioned with more great helms etc. The course of Fire and Blood vol 1 shows us the emergence of banking in Westeros, reforms to the tax system, sanitation in cities, theological reforms, and even the development of new seafaring techniques.
If we rewind back a few millennia the Andals are an Iron Age people fighting the First Men a Bronze Age level people, the Andals don’t ride in as medieval knights with troubadours and painting they are people on horse with stronger swords who later develop into a medieval society. Really the only people who have not developed technologically are the Thenn, if you put a Thenn next to a Northman or even better a Crownland merchant or a Reachman knight you can clearly see that Westeros has seen massive technological change since the Andal invasion.
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Post by Elotyr on Sept 8, 2019 19:31:43 GMT
Also Valyrians, and early first men at least when comes to architecture, had level of tech superior of what Westeros has now, the Wall, Storm's End, Winterfell and Dragonstone are clearly examples. Valiryian Steel can be compared to Damascus Steel in our world, a metallurgy tech so fecking awesome that this things have CARBON GODDAM NANOTUBS, and Qohor blacksmiths at least learned how to reforge them in Martin's World. Also you can say Others are just magic beings, but if we go with George rules in his early works, magic is just tech that some people don't understand, so they blades and armours could also be examples of advanced metallurgy.
There is already a mission in the Higher Mysteries branch at Citadel that would be a a good proto start to a submod i think, if you fund someone's expedition to Valyria they can uncover a rosetta, i mean, Valyrian tablet, the thing already mention techs, so maybe the mod could use it as a start to unlocking a bit of Valyrian tech? Like Valyrian steel and glass candles creation, Valyrian architecture as new buildings, dragon bredding etc...
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Post by Nervosi on Sept 12, 2019 13:09:05 GMT
Pretty interesting ideas. though i don't think Vanilla Tech system would fit, it'd be cool if there was a slow tech progress over Centuries of gameplay.
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Post by Mitusonator on Sept 14, 2019 21:22:38 GMT
I always thought about hisotry of the world of A Song of Ice and Fire before Aegon's Conquest as semi-legendary. It's like people in late middle ages imagined Arthurian Legends with their contemporary armors, weapons etc. I would also go as far as making theory that some families may not be as old as they claim to be, it's (again an example from real world history) like in my country, Poland, one of the chroniclers wrote about stuff like alleged ancestors of our ruling, Piast, dynasty defeating Alexander the Great and Ceasar.
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