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Post by antonii on Apr 14, 2019 13:44:27 GMT
As it is, the King in the North, Edrick Snowbeard (id: 812059, lives 7609-7709) is childless up until a ripe age of 69, with his baby boy Brandon (id: 811059) being born in 7678. At the same time, he is incapable since 7675. Him fathering a child while being bedridden with old age is nothing short of a miracle. The World of Ice and Fire informs us of a degree of infighting among "his own numerous—and fractious—descendants" when Edrick Snowbeard is old. As it is, there are not many descendants to fight for power, besides the one baby child.
And as it happens, it does have some ingame consequences. If you play a Valyrian Freehold game and start the game in 7675 (as I did, because I wanted him to have the cool "snowbeard" name, which he sadly also only gets in 7675), the Starks are guaranteed to go extinct around in the first couple of months.
I would make Brandon (id: 811059) perhaps 20 years older (as it is, he dies with 37 anyway, so being 57 instead is plausible) and give him two elder brothers and an elder sister (perhaps married to the contemporary lord Bolton, in order to include him in the power struggle) who all die before the succession in 7709. One of the elder brothers can perhaps even have a son which would be sent off to the night's watch as a result of a power struggle lost.
Brandon's son Rodrick (id: 810059) dies at an early age of 24, and fathers Brandon Ice Eyes (famous grand-grandson of the Snowbeard) at an age of 16. Make Rodrick 12 years older, so he dies with 36, fathers the child with 28 and is himself born when his father is 28. If you want them to start procreating earlier, feel free to give them a few elder children who die young.
This way, the whole situation makes a bit more sense and is more in line with the canon.
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Post by antonii on Apr 14, 2019 22:54:00 GMT
I imagine something like this. Just fill in the ids.
812059 = {
name="Edrick"
dynasty=59
stewardship=15
religion="old_gods"
culture="northman"
father=813059
add_trait=wroth
add_trait=diligent
7609.1.1 = { birth="7609.1.1"}
7620.1.1 = { add_trait="ice" }
7625.1.1 = {
add_trait=trained_warrior
}
7675.1.1= {
give_nickname = nick_snowbeard
add_trait=incapable
}
7709.1.1 = { death="7709.1.1" }
}
811059 = {
name="Brandon"
dynasty=59
religion="old_gods"
culture="northman"
father=812059
7658.1.1 = { birth="7658.1.1"}
7675.1.1 = {
effect = {
add_rival = newid1
add_rival = newid2
add_rival = newid3
add_rival = newid4
}
}
7715.1.1 = { death="7715.1.1" }
}
810059 = {
name="Rodrik"
dynasty=59
religion="old_gods"
culture="northman"
father=811059
7686.1.1 = { birth="7686.1.1"}
7722.1.1 = { death="7722.1.1" }
}
newid1 = {
name="Jonos"
dynasty=59
religion="old_gods"
culture="northman"
father=812059
7632.1.1 = { birth="7632.1.1"}
7675.1.1 = {
effect = {
add_rival = 811059
add_rival = newid3
add_rival = newid4
}
}
7696.1.1 = { death="7696.1.1" }
}
newid2 = {
name="Edrick"
dynasty=59
religion="old_gods"
culture="northman"
father=newid1
7654.1.1 = { birth="7654.1.1"}
7675.1.1 = {
effect = {
add_rival = 811059
add_rival = newid3
add_rival = newid4
}
}
7697.1.1 = { add_trait="nightswatch" }
7705.1.1 = { death="7705.1.1" }
}
newid3 = {
name="Osric"
dynasty=59
religion="old_gods"
culture="northman"
father=812059
7634.1.1 = { birth="7634.1.1"}
7675.1.1 = {
effect = {
add_rival = 811059
add_rival = newid1
add_rival = newid2
add_rival = newid4
}
}
7683.1.1 = { death= {death_reason = death_murder_unknown} }
}
newid4 = {
name="Lysara"
female = yes
dynasty=59
religion="old_gods"
culture="northman"
father=812059
7641.1.1 = { birth="7641.1.1"}
# 7658.1.1 = {add_spouse=10087} #Hother Bolton in the Submod
7675.1.1 = {
effect = {
add_rival = 811059
add_rival = newid1
add_rival = newid2
add_rival = newid3
}
}
7679.1.1 = { death= {death_reason = death_dungeon} }
}
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