Congenital Overhaul v2.0

Yes please. That'd be great

Can you please explain it again. I've looked through every page on this submod and all over the subreddit, and I don't see any explanations. I really love this mod and the traits are just absolutely necessary for me.

I thought that's what you were supposed to do, however I did that, but the apparently just having the traits still mess up the Bloodlines for the game. As in, no one starts off with any. I'm not sure why the traits would cause that.

Hi! I'm Crimson9, author of Improved Genetics on Steam. Four contacted me over whether you can implement my mod into yours.

You have my permission of course. But I will say this is probably a rather large endeavor, especially if you want to make sure that certain races have a tendency towards certain traits. That said, the system is rather flexible and if you are willing to put in work, a lot is possible.

There are certain things that I wanted to remedy in the mod that I haven't been able to add because my old computer is gone and I can't update the mod anymore. But you definitely should add a new event that assigns traits to characters on startup. HF basically fucked up the random trait assignment in the game, and now random assignment of traits at start up is based on both the birth = '' and the inherit_chance = '' sections of the trait. That messed up the startup of my mod since the inherit chance of all traits in my mod are 0 (the gene system takes over from random inherit chance.) The side effect of this is that startup genes are screwed up, so you need a new event to assign random traits. The way I dealt with it (rather lazily) was to set inherit_chance = 1 instead of 0, so that at least some starting characters have some random traits. Works well enough as a temporary solution.

But anyway, regarding the fact that certain races tend towards certain traits... There are far more elegant ways of doing it within this system rather than what vanilla GoT probably has.

One way is just implementing the random trait assignment on startup and giving, for example, Mantaryans a higher rate of ugly and deformed traits. The gene system will then give them ugly genes when they have their first child. Or, even better, you can just assign the genes to every character on startup, and give the Mantaryans a higher rate of ugly recessive pairs, and recessive pairs in deformity traits like clubfoot and harelip. Although this would require more work.

Either way, once the initial conditions are set to make the Mantaryans more ugly, then the system will continue to reflect that. Why? Assume that everyone in the game marries indiscriminately and randomly (a fair assumption) and that Mantaryans only marry Mantaryans. Let's say that 10% of Mantaryans have AA attractiveness genes, 30% have normal (Aa) pairs, and 60% have aa (ugly) pairs. Statistically, they should reach 6.25%, 37.50% and 56.25% in the respective pairs after one generation and then stop there. This is a steady state, meaning that for the rest of the game the Mantaryan people will tend to have those distribution of pairs, and thus they will end up being ugly more often than not. A good looking population might have the opposite numbers.

On a population level, this would mean that most Mantaryans are ugly, but not ALL. There will always be outliers if you do it like this. But you can sort of force populations towards certain genes rather elegantly.

The second way to do it (and probably less work, though biologically less accurate) would be to simply tinker with the genotype to phenotype conversion for the race. So right now what I do is after the genes are assigned to the child, I count how many dominant genes there are (or in the case of Mendelian deformities, how many recessive pairs), and then generate a random list for each case that assigns the actual traits. If, for example, they have 5 dominant alleles in the attractiveness group, there is a 10% (or something like that) chance to get attractive, and 30% chance to get comely. What you could do is add a modifier to the random lists. If, for example, the ethnicity is Lysene, give them x3 chance to get attractive and x2 to get comely.

Either of those two solutions should work.

If you require any help let me know! I love ASOIAF.

Also, I'm a girl. Although I understand the assumption

Just gonna say real quick, I have read what you said Crimson. I can't type too much of a reply right this second as am getting ready to go to work. But thank you

What do you mean? Like help them incorporate it into the main mod? I think it works better as a submod, personally. Since I've found that many people don't like the added complexity.

I can reach out and help them make a proper compatible improved genetics version for AGOT, but that is kind of what I'm doing here, no? This mod seems well liked, and adds a lot of new traits that will have to be converted to improved genetics versions if the mod author decides to incorporate my mod. Better to kill two birds with one stone, I think,