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Post by onyxhaider on Nov 12, 2019 18:48:47 GMT
The province of Melikh cultural unit building needs to be changed from Jogos nhai to Yiti. Tbh I'm happy leaving it as it is, its right on the edge of the lands of the Jogos - borders are by their nature porous and the province is a plain more conducive to steppe warfare than infantry battles so it make sense for the inhabitants of Melikh to fight like Jogos Then all border provinces should change for YITI then, Melikh is an odd one out, moreover its makes little sense for Yiti local population to adopt Jogos nhai tactics they work if your nomadic they are not, Foot archers, anti cavalry units such as pikes and fortifications work better, thats why china never bothered to become nomadic style warfare instead choose fortification. Russians never adopted steppe warfare and they were raided seasonally, they just got good at countering it. Infantry battles do work the last Scarlet emperor supposedly killed millions of them. Qohor also shown pike and fortification beats nomads they broke a dothraki horde on it. Raiding will not stop a culture built on warfare from attacking and destroying your town. How does it makes sense the Jogos Nhai are raised in a war like culture raised to ride horses and shoot arrows off them, there would be little population mixing as they slaughter and enslave yiti while they never settle, or stay in one place also lets not forget Yiti hates them they slaughter them if they could get the hands on them. You point doesn't work with Nomads in this as they don't settle or have strong links to Yiti both sides are constant warfare with each other. Nomads from siberia culture didn't survive, turkish style nomads ended when they came across tougher opponents.
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Post by Kai on Nov 12, 2019 19:00:28 GMT
Not sure if it's an issue or not(for me it isn't) but the Hungry Wolf bloodline never appears? Does it need any of the official sub mods to work? If not what's the console command I can put in to make it appear? I found this stuff as I was looking Bloodline -> theon_the_hungry_wolf = { monthly_character_prestige = 0.25 martial = 2 first_men_opinion = 10 andal_opinion = -10 inheritance = patrilineal allow_bastards = yes picture = GFX_bloodline_stark flags = { historical_bloodline } }
820059 = { name="Theon" dynasty=59 martial=8 stewardship=4 diplomacy=4 father=851059 religion="old_gods" culture="old_first_man" add_trait="brilliant_strategist" add_trait="ruthless" add_trait="wroth" add_trait="proud" add_trait="diligent" add_trait="cruel" 6579.1.1 = { birth="6579.1.1"} 6595.1.1 = { add_trait=skilled_warrior give_nickname = nick_the_hungry_wolf } 6638.1.1 = { death="6638.1.1" } }
852059 = { name="Line of Theon" dynasty=59 religion="old_gods" culture="northman" father=820059 occluded=yes 6638.1.1 = { birth="6638.1.1"} 7211.1.1 = { death="7211.1.1" } }
But didnt find any related quests to obtaining the bloodline. Which is odd but ah well. You can add it to a save file by just adding the bloodline at the bottom where the other bloodlines are. Since "Theon the Hungry Wolf" is already present in the localisation files, bloodline files, and history files, you shouldn't have to mess with them to get it to work. I'll test it on my end rq though I'm not sure if there is a quest to get the bloodline. The mod author would be the best person to give a definite answer [/spoiler] <- dont feel like removing you. formatting is being a dick lol
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Post by Kai on Nov 12, 2019 19:02:38 GMT
Not sure if it's an issue or not(for me it isn't) but the Hungry Wolf bloodline never appears? Does it need any of the official sub mods to work? If not what's the console command I can put in to make it appear? Hungry wolf?? I thought the same thing XD I was like ... thats a bloodline? It apparently is though XD
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 12, 2019 19:05:32 GMT
Not sure if it's an issue or not(for me it isn't) but the Hungry Wolf bloodline never appears? Does it need any of the official sub mods to work? If not what's the console command I can put in to make it appear? I found this stuff as I was looking Bloodline -> theon_the_hungry_wolf = { monthly_character_prestige = 0.25 martial = 2 first_men_opinion = 10 andal_opinion = -10 inheritance = patrilineal allow_bastards = yes picture = GFX_bloodline_stark flags = { historical_bloodline } }
820059 = { name="Theon" dynasty=59 martial=8 stewardship=4 diplomacy=4 father=851059 religion="old_gods" culture="old_first_man" add_trait="brilliant_strategist" add_trait="ruthless" add_trait="wroth" add_trait="proud" add_trait="diligent" add_trait="cruel" 6579.1.1 = { birth="6579.1.1"} 6595.1.1 = { add_trait=skilled_warrior give_nickname = nick_the_hungry_wolf } 6638.1.1 = { death="6638.1.1" } }
852059 = { name="Line of Theon" dynasty=59 religion="old_gods" culture="northman" father=820059 occluded=yes 6638.1.1 = { birth="6638.1.1"} 7211.1.1 = { death="7211.1.1" } }
But didnt find any related quests to obtaining the bloodline. Which is odd but ah well. You can add it to a save file by just adding the bloodline at the bottom where the other bloodlines are. Since "Theon the Hungry Wolf" is already present in the localisation files, bloodline files, and history files, you shouldn't have to mess with them to get it to work. I'll test it on my end rq though I'm not sure if there is a quest to get the bloodline. The mod author would be the best person to give a definite answer [/spoiler] <- dont feel like removing you. formatting is being a dick lol[/quote] Lol had forgotten about that - I added it in then decided the Starks has too many bloodlines lol. If I ever get around to implementing official submod versions I’ll add it in and I might do something where you can obtain a variant of it if you are a stark and raid a lot of essos perhaps
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Post by Kai on Nov 12, 2019 19:27:54 GMT
WOOO! More stuff in 2.0!! I'm so excited for that X) I smashed the bloodline into a save game and tested it though, like I said I would earlier, and it appears to work. So if anyone wants it here it is ^_^ 192= { type="theon_the_hungry_wolf" name="Blood of the Hungry Wolf" owner=820059 flags= { historical_bloodline=6595.1.1 } member=820059 member="insert your character ID here" inheritance="patrilineal" allow_bastards=yes <- should be no, the char in this save is a bastard and didnt want to risk a false negative } }
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Post by onyxhaider on Nov 12, 2019 20:11:31 GMT
sorry random question is this all created by rufff1 or is there a mod team? (just curious)
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 12, 2019 21:17:22 GMT
sorry random question is this all created by rufff1 or is there a mod team? (just curious) Nah we now have a team of 3 with myself then aconda and erbkaiser all contributing
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Post by lordumber93 on Nov 12, 2019 22:06:18 GMT
Ohhhh okay,so its not supposed to be a bloodline? That's cool. Though, if implemented as one, you could balance it with Cregans bloodline, giving you the option to be ruthless/cruel or just. With negative and positive modifiers based on religion.
Always kinda preferred The Hungry Wolf and his hatred over Cregan and his justice. Lol
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Post by onyxhaider on Nov 13, 2019 0:39:33 GMT
Is the mod compatible with more bookmark mods?
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Post by Azrael on Nov 13, 2019 5:13:39 GMT
Is the mod compatible with more bookmark mods? It changes the map, so probably not; would need a compatibility patch.
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Post by stefan on Nov 13, 2019 18:03:10 GMT
Hello from Russia! Thank you for this mod. In near updates will you add a bloodline for Tyrion/Jamie/Joffrey, or Ramsay/Roose?
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 13, 2019 20:53:01 GMT
Hello from Russia! Thank you for this mod. In near updates will you add a bloodline for Tyrion/Jamie/Joffrey, or Ramsay/Roose? Jaime is getting one in the next update - I'm not convinced about the others
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Post by Kai on Nov 14, 2019 1:09:59 GMT
Hello from Russia! Thank you for this mod. In near updates will you add a bloodline for Tyrion/Jamie/Joffrey, or Ramsay/Roose? Jaime is getting one in the next update - I'm not convinced about the others I agree that Tyrion doesn't need a bloodline as he hasn't done enough to distinguish himself in my opinion. However, one could make the argument for Roose Bolton getting his own bloodline. "The Roose" fought in the the Battle at the Trident, and presumably, due to the fact that he was loyal on paper to the Starks, during the Greyjoy Rebellion. The battles aren't really the selling point for him though, it's the fact that he scares the absolute piss out of everyone, is a total bastard (which nobody can really do much about because he's a bastard in secret (at one point he went as far as to have a man's tongue removed to prevent snitching to Stark overlords)), and he succeeded in a 200 IQ play to usurp the Lord Paramount title from the Starks. If he was to get his own bloodline it should definitely be after he gains LP status though and should be heavily intrigue focused as he is the sneakiest living mofo in Westeros (except for Varys of course. And NSA Bran/Bloodraven.).
But yeah, those are just my unbiased thoughts on the subject. My biased thoughts are "REEE need more Valyrian/Old First Man stuff REEE" But I'm just happy to get an update and more content in the end :F
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Post by Elotyr on Nov 14, 2019 3:32:51 GMT
Love or hate Cersei i think the woman deserves a Bloodline, Badshit mad? Totally, but she was kind of the Golden Queen of Westeros for like what 15 years? That with almost no one knowing she was banging her brother during the time, it takes dedication! She also didn't shived Robert in his sleep, totally a lot of self-control! Jokes aside Cersei really growned in my during a re-read and playing some games in universe. Also her dumbass scheme killed Robert, in the end she is as much of a Kingslayer as Jaime in my books. Also Wildfire in Blackwater? Totally her thing, Tyrion just put the safeguards to her burn them all plan. I miss them working together x)
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Post by rufff1 on Nov 14, 2019 9:36:54 GMT
Jaime is getting one in the next update - I'm not convinced about the others I agree that Tyrion doesn't need a bloodline as he hasn't done enough to distinguish himself in my opinion. However, one could make the argument for Roose Bolton getting his own bloodline. "The Roose" fought in the the Battle at the Trident, and presumably, due to the fact that he was loyal on paper to the Starks, during the Greyjoy Rebellion. The battles aren't really the selling point for him though, it's the fact that he scares the absolute piss out of everyone, is a total bastard (which nobody can really do much about because he's a bastard in secret (at one point he went as far as to have a man's tongue removed to prevent snitching to Stark overlords)), and he succeeded in a 200 IQ play to usurp the Lord Paramount title from the Starks. If he was to get his own bloodline it should definitely be after he gains LP status though and should be heavily intrigue focused as he is the sneakiest living mofo in Westeros (except for Varys of course. And NSA Bran/Bloodraven.).
But yeah, those are just my unbiased thoughts on the subject. My biased thoughts are "REEE need more Valyrian/Old First Man stuff REEE" But I'm just happy to get an update and more content in the end :F Fair enough - will add a bl after the RW
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