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Post by Elotyr on Oct 24, 2019 16:33:40 GMT
Maybe the Whent/Lothson red hair? Even in the Tullys i always saw it more as a heritage of Catelyn's mom, Sansa for example being referenced more as a Whent than a Tully sometimes, half wolf half bat and all that. I know Mad Danelle Lothston had red hair but I hadn’t hear about the Whents having red hair - I thought high cheekbones was their defining feature (also I need to go and check Aegon the Unworthies mistress cos if she has red hair it’s clearly a defining Lothston trait  ) Well Jeyne may not be the best example, she was kind of the spitting image of her mother, Falena Stokeworth, at least in illustrations, but Jon Lothson, the only Lothson alive that i know about, is a redhead for what it matters. Edit: Also, maybe the Daynes? They mostly are using a Westerosi Valyrian for now, a specific seed would fit them better in my opinion. Edit 2: My bad, didn't see that them was alredy done. Edit 3: Yeah, i'm probrably wrong about the Whents, i search for it and couldn't find anything that backed me up about their red hair, yeah Minisa had a brown/redish hair, but that was that, you're right, their thing is the checkbones haha probrably is because in my mind the Whent where just a branch house from the Lothson, so i put them in the same bunch. |
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Post by rufff1 on Oct 24, 2019 17:07:20 GMT
I know Mad Danelle Lothston had red hair but I hadn’t hear about the Whents having red hair - I thought high cheekbones was their defining feature (also I need to go and check Aegon the Unworthies mistress cos if she has red hair it’s clearly a defining Lothston trait ) Well Jeyne may not be the best example, she was kind of the spitting image of her mother, Falena Stokeworth, at least in illustrations, but Jon Lothson, the only Lothson alive that i know about, is a redhead for what it matters. Edit: Also, maybe the Daynes? They mostly are using a Westerosi Valyrian for now, a specific seed would fit them better in my opinion. Edit 2: My bad, didn't see that them was alredy done. Edit 3: Yeah, i'm probrably wrong about the Whents, i search for it and couldn't find anything that backed me up about their red hair, yeah Minisa had a brown/redish hair, but that was that, you're right, their thing is the checkbones haha probrably is because in my mind the Whent where just a branch house from the Lothson, so i put them in the same bunch. Ah yes I’d been confusing the Stokeworth with the Lothston, and after all Jeyne Lothston probably wasn’t a Lothston given what we know so yeah Red hair seems very plausible |
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Post by Kai on Oct 24, 2019 17:42:21 GMT
Bit of a dev diary/discussion starter here: As part of the work on 2.0 (which is gonna be a rather extensive update covering a lot of ground :) ) we are adding additional custom dynasty gfx ethnicities with the strong seed system. Currently we have added the following: [...] Does anyone have any suggestions of any house that has a regular house appearance that persists across generations that could be added - thing like tall Umbers and fat Manderlys are best handled via traits - I'm primarily thinking about hair and eye colour? Would this be compatible with submods like "Faces Modification"? I know based on references from Fire and Blood that Alysanne Blackwood (b. 113 AC) had black hair and based off of descriptions of other notable Blackwoods like Tytos Blackwood as well as the fact that House Blackwood is a former Northern House, might assume that black hair is a common attribute of the Blackwoods. There are more that I cant think of right now. I'll update as I remember lol My bad for mentioning the Blackwoods when it was already stated they were gonna be updated XD I've had the fact that the Blackwoods don't look quite as they should on my mind for awhile now and jumped at the opportunity to mention it XD Is heterochromia possible? If so there are a few characters in the lore who have that trait. Shiera "Seastar" had one blue eye and one green eye, Euron Greyjoy had one blue eye one ... mystery eye ... Tyrion Lannister has one green eye and one dark colored. The heterochromia could either be tied to a trait or even just mentioned as flavor text for the bloodline. Some Targaryens also have been known to have gold colored hair, or silver with streaks of gold (as is the case with Elaena Targaryen), or even silver hair with a gold, silver-streaked beard (as was the case with Jaehaerys I Targaryen). House Royce of the Vale claim descent from the First Men so might look more like them than Andals. Side note: Should the Royces get a claim on the Vale due to their descent from Robar II Royce who united the Vale and ruled as the "Bronze King" |
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Post by Elotyr on Oct 24, 2019 17:57:23 GMT
... Is heterochromia possible? If so there are a few characters in the lore who have that trait. Shiera "Seastar" had one blue eye and one green eye, Euron Greyjoy had one blue eye one ... mystery eye ... Tyrion Lannister has one green eye and one dark colored. The heterochromia could either be tied to a trait or even just mentioned as flavor text for the bloodline. ... Some Targaryens also have been known to have gold colored hair, or silver with streaks of gold (as is the case with Elaena Targaryen), or even silver hair with a gold, silver-streaked beard (as was the case with Jaehaerys I Targaryen). ... Is a thing in Congenital Overhaul, but only for males if i'm not mistaken, tied to a trait and all xD Yes, the Targaryen seed having more diversity in hair colors would be really cool! |
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Post by geminus on Oct 24, 2019 23:20:57 GMT
Hey, just now noticed that this sub-mod bugs out the Rogue Prince start date.
Essentially, King's Landing is split in two and the Westerosi King starts with said two provinces so the game forces him to hand out one of them to the landless duke tier vassal that is Daemon Targaryen, breaking pretty much every single event surrounding him and causing a right ol' mess.
Also... would there be a chance to release a version of the sub-mod that doesn't mess with the map? I love everything about it except having to zoom in to click on the new small-as-shite provinces. It's also problematic when an AI character just gives away King's Landing or Oldtown to some random schmuk due to latent stupidity.
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Post by rufff1 on Oct 24, 2019 23:56:13 GMT
Hey, just now noticed that this sub-mod bugs out the Rogue Prince start date. Essentially, King's Landing is split in two and the Westerosi King starts with said two provinces so the game forces him to hand out one of them to the landless duke tier vassal that is Daemon Targaryen, breaking pretty much every single event surrounding him and causing a right ol' mess. Also... would there be a chance to release a version of the sub-mod that doesn't mess with the map? I love everything about it except having to zoom in to click on the new small-as-shite provinces. It's also problematic when an AI character just gives away King's Landing or Oldtown to some random schmuk due to latent stupidity. I’ll look into the rogue prince although I think that issue might be down to history entries etc. Have no plans to add a map less version, the map changes are meshed on with too much stuff. Tip on clicking Red Keep - the province winds up almost exactly the same size zoomed out as the royal shield so if you click the shield should select the province. As for giving away KL OT - characters should never give away the citadel as it is the capital and should only give away the city which is lore accurate as it is just appointing a commander of the town guard who they can revoke at any time |
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Post by maplw on Oct 25, 2019 5:45:08 GMT
The Personal Arms is updated for 2.0 now, are you gonna make a compatibility patch for it?
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Post by Kai on Oct 25, 2019 15:56:46 GMT
rufff1 Do you have a rough timeframe for when the new version of More Bloodlines is going to be finished and released? Just want to know if I have time to get invested in a new game or not XD No rush by the way, i'll still be supportive of your work whether it takes a few days or a few months :)
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Post by rufff1 on Oct 25, 2019 16:42:40 GMT
rufff1 Do you have a rough timeframe for when the new version of More Bloodlines is going to be finished and released? Just want to know if I have time to get invested in a new game or not XD No rush by the way, i'll still be supportive of your work whether it takes a few days or a few months Few weeks probably - we’re covering a lot of ground for 2.0 and so certain aspects are taking time |
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Post by Kai on Oct 25, 2019 16:52:18 GMT
rufff1 Do you have a rough timeframe for when the new version of More Bloodlines is going to be finished and released? Just want to know if I have time to get invested in a new game or not XD No rush by the way, i'll still be supportive of your work whether it takes a few days or a few months :) Few weeks probably - we’re covering a lot of ground for 2.0 and so certain aspects are taking time :) WOOO! Sounds good!! Thank you for the update! I look forward to it and to hearing more about the development as time goes on :) I also really appreciate you listening to community input on changes they would like to see, i.e. specific changes to bloodlines regarding certain physical characteristics inherent in the bloodlines of certain houses! Good stuff! |
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Post by aconda on Oct 25, 2019 16:55:47 GMT
Here's something fun. |
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Post by Elotyr on Oct 25, 2019 17:55:35 GMT
Aconda you goddam teaser! XD
Btw talking about community imput, you guys would be open to add some custom White Walkers?
I was reading the ASOIAF Roleplaying Nights Watch's book, and the ones in there were really cool, like the King of Winter, the White Lady, the Child-Taker and the Hunterman with his pack of wights direwolves.
Probrably will make some of them myself in my own games sometime with save editing, but some fleshed out ones would be a really fun addition for the mod in my opinion, principally when compared to the kind of generic ones we have now.
Even in a older playtrough of mine when Mother Mole became a White Walker was such a cool surprise to me haha
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Post by Kai on Oct 26, 2019 16:06:08 GMT
Aconda you goddam teaser! XD Btw talking about community imput, you guys would be open to add some custom White Walkers? I was reading the ASOIAF Roleplaying Nights Watch's book, and the ones in there were really cool, like the King of Winter, the White Lady, the Child-Taker and the Hunterman with his pack of wights direwolves. Probrably will make some of them myself in my own games sometime with save editing, but some fleshed out ones would be a really fun addition for the mod in my opinion, principally when compared to the kind of generic ones we have now. Even in a older playtrough of mine when Mother Mole became a White Walker was such a cool surprise to me haha Oooo I have Fire and Blood and have been thinking of picking up the RP books too! There are so many interesting characters hiding in the ASOIAF lore ^_^ like Jenny of Oldstones, The Ghost of High Heart, and the "Green Men" of the Isle of Faces. I'd totally be down to see some custom, fleshed out White Walkers related to stories told in the North! That is if I could ever get a White Walker invasion to occur XD |
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Post by Solid Snake on Oct 26, 2019 17:59:58 GMT
Bit of a dev diary/discussion starter here: As part of the work on 2.0 (which is gonna be a rather extensive update covering a lot of ground ) we are adding additional custom dynasty gfx ethnicities with the strong seed system. Currently we have added the following: House Blackwood - Black hair, dark brown eyes House Bracken - Muddy brown hair, brown eyes House Bolton - Full range of northern hair colours, but only exceptionally pale blue eyes House Celtigar - Westerosi Valyrian House Dayne - Westerosi Valyrian House Velaryon - High Valyrian House Yronwood - Blonde hair, blue eyes We have added strong seed blocks for some characters who buck their house looks so Harry "Rivers" Bracken who is fair haired (making Tytos suspect he isn't Jonos' son) and Gwyneth Yronwood ("whose dark eyes and brown hair set her apart in that house of blue-eyed blondes"). I'm also planning on adding red-gold hair to the Dondarrions as we are told that multiple members of the house have that appearance. Does anyone have any suggestions of any house that has a regular house appearance that persists across generations that could be added - thing like tall Umbers and fat Manderlys are best handled via traits - I'm primarily thinking about hair and eye colour? I think the Conningtons should have their own red haired gfx |
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Post by Kai on Oct 26, 2019 18:46:16 GMT
Bit of a dev diary/discussion starter here: As part of the work on 2.0 (which is gonna be a rather extensive update covering a lot of ground ) we are adding additional custom dynasty gfx ethnicities with the strong seed system. Currently we have added the following: House Blackwood - Black hair, dark brown eyes House Bracken - Muddy brown hair, brown eyes House Bolton - Full range of northern hair colours, but only exceptionally pale blue eyes House Celtigar - Westerosi Valyrian House Dayne - Westerosi Valyrian House Velaryon - High Valyrian House Yronwood - Blonde hair, blue eyes We have added strong seed blocks for some characters who buck their house looks so Harry "Rivers" Bracken who is fair haired (making Tytos suspect he isn't Jonos' son) and Gwyneth Yronwood ("whose dark eyes and brown hair set her apart in that house of blue-eyed blondes"). I'm also planning on adding red-gold hair to the Dondarrions as we are told that multiple members of the house have that appearance. Does anyone have any suggestions of any house that has a regular house appearance that persists across generations that could be added - thing like tall Umbers and fat Manderlys are best handled via traits - I'm primarily thinking about hair and eye colour? I think the Conningtons should have their own red haired gfx I agree with you that they should get red hair of the same or of a lighter shade than members of House Reyne. Jon Connington is described as having "fiery red hair and beard". ADWD; chapter 24. "Red Roy" Connington (b.63 AC d.92-93 AC) [was] presumably [...] known as Red Roy due to the characteristic red hair of House Connington. Fire and Blood .Ronald 'Storm' (b.286 AC) Ronald took after his father in appearance apparently being "red-haired, and fierce" ADWD chapter 61. So yeah, found a bunch of evidence supporting this Bloodline as having a very dominant red hair gene through many generations :) |
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