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Post by aconda on Oct 9, 2019 16:56:01 GMT
It's strange, it does work normally. Is it tested on a fresh start and not on a savegame? All saves was deleted with Paradox folder (and my saves from EU4 and Stellaris, welp) Mmmm, consider doing another "clean" instal. You followed the instructions from ruff and stonewalace, wich is kind of the only thing that could mess up these kind of problems. Other then different incompatible submods that would also be running.
Another clean install after the instructions from ruff and stonewalace would install everything fresh.
Even consider installing the new 64bit version beta version, would catch two birds in one catch then.
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Post by silverberg42 on Oct 9, 2019 19:03:02 GMT
All saves was deleted with Paradox folder (and my saves from EU4 and Stellaris, welp) Mmmm, consider doing another "clean" instal. You followed the instructions from ruff and stonewalace, wich is kind of the only thing that could mess up these kind of problems. Other then different incompatible submods that would also be running.
Another clean install after the instructions from ruff and stonewalace would install everything fresh.
Even consider installing the new 64bit version beta version, would catch two birds in one catch then.
Im already have 64bit win10. And now did clean install. It still doesnt work. In MB 1.7 I have same problem and in this topic was guy, who solved it by redacting files |
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Post by silverberg42 on Oct 9, 2019 19:08:20 GMT
the fucked up CoA happen when \interface\coat_of_arms\coats_of_arms.txt have a number wrong. www.dropbox.com/s/bjxrqf3spib8d0n/coats_of_arms.txt?dl=0here mine with hum custom noble house enabled. It show the proper coa There were quite a number of files definition that needed updating, but it seam to be doing the trick for me
since i got custom noble house enable, you may have to remove the code related to the mod added files. I can do it, but i'm lazy so if it work and don't crash XD PS: Glorry to sir Roderick Seastag "Pike", true King of the Andals and the First Men, lord of the seven kingdom, protector of the realm and so ****** cute! Let us all share in his glorry as we depose the vile inbred and.... un-cute.... usurper Joffrey Waters! PPS: yea i know my Coa have two metals, and it's not allowed exept for jerusalem XD I just wanted to do something on the theme of dragon dream and... it could be better XD
It worked for 1.7 problem, but doesnt for 1.9 |
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Angelo
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Post by Angelo on Oct 11, 2019 21:07:30 GMT
I'm not sure if this is deliberate but the young dragon doesn't actually get his bloodline in the conquest of dorne start.
I am kind of a retard so if I am feel free to call me one im just inquiring.
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Post by hercules23 on Oct 12, 2019 6:47:10 GMT
Im not seeing the house sigils for Harstark, Barstark, Fireball, families, basically the sigils appear white, im not using any submods that alter the history/DNA, any reason what it could be?
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Post by dragriff on Oct 12, 2019 16:25:02 GMT
hey ruff1, aconda or anyone can tell me the house is this CoA from? imgbbb.com/image/LVgyRH its in westerlands gfx folder only in more bloodlines mod, right after hillbeck house, i tried to search in dynasties folder but not find their number in any house there |
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Post by rufff1 on Oct 12, 2019 17:04:26 GMT
hey ruff1, aconda or anyone can tell me the house is this CoA from? imgbbb.com/image/LVgyRH its in westerlands gfx folder only in more bloodlines mod, right after hillbeck house, i tried to search in dynasties folder but not find their number in any house there It’s an old one - originally House Hammer (Hugh the Hammer) didn’t have a sigil so we recoloured the Targ arms to Bronze for Vermithor and set it as his sigil. In AGOT 2.0 the devs added their own version which was also a bronze dragon with a bend sinster and a warhammer so the COA we’d added was no longer necessary. We’ll use that spot on the list if we need to add another sigil any time soon (I think I might have used it for one of the Flint branches for the 2.0 update (we’re splitting the House into 3 to better represent the House as a whole) |
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Post by silverberg42 on Oct 12, 2019 19:44:25 GMT
Hello. Plz fix wrong CoA, cannot wait to play into More Bloodlines, because with broken sigils cant start, immersion ruined |
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Post by lunasmeow on Oct 12, 2019 19:47:25 GMT
So, there's something that makes no sense in your bloodlines. Vile Blood of the Mad King? Well, even people with the same blood have a negative opinion of you. I'm playing for example, as a Targ child of Rhaegar and Lyanna, brother to Jon... and Daenerys has a negative modifier of me, because her father is my grandfather. This bloodline should have a "same trait" modifier that negates the negative modifier, as should any other bloodlines with negative traits. People can't exactly hate you for having a bloodline that they themselves share after all. Not without hating themselves.
So I'm getting a total of -15 for her (bloodline and vassal opinion) because of a bloodline that she herself possesses.
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Post by Kai on Oct 12, 2019 19:53:11 GMT
So, there's something that makes no sense in your bloodlines. Vile Blood of the Mad King? Well, even people with the same blood have a negative opinion of you. I'm playing for example, as a Targ child of Rhaegar and Lyanna, brother to Jon... and Daenerys has a negative modifier of me, because her father is my grandfather. This bloodline should have a "same trait" modifier that negates the negative modifier, as should any other bloodlines with negative traits. People can't exactly hate you for having a bloodline that they themselves share after all. Not without hating themselves. It's like insulting your brother with a yo' mama joke ... it's your mother too lol. It'd be possible to add a "same dynasty" opinion boost to a bloodline but there might already be one for two characters of the same dynasty but im unsure. |
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Post by lunasmeow on Oct 12, 2019 20:03:43 GMT
So, there's something that makes no sense in your bloodlines. Vile Blood of the Mad King? Well, even people with the same blood have a negative opinion of you. I'm playing for example, as a Targ child of Rhaegar and Lyanna, brother to Jon... and Daenerys has a negative modifier of me, because her father is my grandfather. This bloodline should have a "same trait" modifier that negates the negative modifier, as should any other bloodlines with negative traits. People can't exactly hate you for having a bloodline that they themselves share after all. Not without hating themselves. It's like insulting your brother with a yo' mama joke ... it's your mother too lol. It'd be possible to add a "same dynasty" opinion boost to a bloodline but there might already be one for two characters of the same dynasty but im unsure. I can confirm that there isn't one currently. I've added up all my positive modifiers and the negative ones - and the numbers add up to my current score that I should have only if that isn't being negated. So there needs to be an addition, or else an "only" modifier placed on it somehow, that allows the negatives to only occur if the character doesn't have the same trait. Which is probably easier, because if you try to negate it otherwise you'll have to worry about going overboard. Do just a +10 and it won't negate the vassal -5, do a +15 and non-vassal relatives get an unfair boost. I've got a "same dynasty" +10 bonus, which would negate the first, but not the vassal issue. So I'm still getting an extra -5 from having the same bloodline as her, just because she's a vassal. And honestly, that same dynasty bonus isn't coming from the bloodline - it's a normal family bonus, because blind Aemon at the wall has the bonus with me, without him being of Aerys' blood. Which means it's not really negating anything, as I should have the +10 anyway. |
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Post by rufff1 on Oct 12, 2019 21:08:01 GMT
Hello. Plz fix wrong CoA, cannot wait to play into More Bloodlines, because with broken sigils cant start, immersion ruined Can’t replicate bug, cannot fix your issue, only advice I can provide is delete the mod and do a clean install. I can’t fix a problem I do not have |
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Post by rufff1 on Oct 12, 2019 21:24:57 GMT
It's like insulting your brother with a yo' mama joke ... it's your mother too lol. It'd be possible to add a "same dynasty" opinion boost to a bloodline but there might already be one for two characters of the same dynasty but im unsure. I can confirm that there isn't one currently. I've added up all my positive modifiers and the negative ones - and the numbers add up to my current score that I should have only if that isn't being negated. So there needs to be an addition, or else an "only" modifier placed on it somehow, that allows the negatives to only occur if the character doesn't have the same trait. Which is probably easier, because if you try to negate it otherwise you'll have to worry about going overboard. Do just a +10 and it won't negate the vassal -5, do a +15 and non-vassal relatives get an unfair boost. I've got a "same dynasty" +10 bonus, which would negate the first, but not the vassal issue. So I'm still getting an extra -5 from having the same bloodline as her, just because she's a vassal. And honestly, that same dynasty bonus isn't coming from the bloodline - it's a normal family bonus, because blind Aemon at the wall has the bonus with me, without him being of Aerys' blood. Which means it's not really negating anything, as I should have the +10 anyway. Ok to provide a lore explanation and a modding explanation of why I don’t think this is a pressing issue, I’ll consider fixing it but not overly fussed. Lore explanation: assuming someone explains to her quite how utterly insane and dangerous Aerys was (as Barristan is doing), Danaerys will know the stories of what he did and also know how insane her brother was. In turn Jon will also know just how awful the Mad King was. If they uncover Jon’s heritage the other will know precisely how mad their bloodline can and does get. Remember how angry Jahaerys got when one of his daughters mentioned Margor? Maegor was a lot more sane than Aerys. If Jon and Danaerys ever meet and know Jon’s heritage each of them will believe that they themselves are sane but would have very strong grounds for wondering if the other had the family madness which would foster a certain degree of distrust, if I were Jon and Dany started being slightly erratic (sorry to remind everyone of Source 8) but I would immediately start thinking “oh Christ she’s taking after grandad, better go stab her” and the same would be true of Danaerys with Jon. The Mad King pierced the Targaryen mystique and showed that they could become murderously and violently insane and anyone sensible would be worried about trusting them again, even other targs. Modding explanation: yeah so you can’t make a bloodline have a trait bonus with specifically another bloodline, so as you mention it’d have to be a trait via a trait gain system, I’m not particularly partial to this as it’s fiddly, rather inelegant, and clutters up the trait bar with either an invisible trait or a trait that is called “spawn of the mad king” or something that just seems a bit silly to have as a trait tbh. I do however, have a solution which is to add a 30+ lunatic opinion to the bloodline as (I would argue) a sane targ would be uneasy around someone form the Mad King’s line but if they were also insane they’d probably be ok with it so if the coin flip makes your targ mad you’d not get what all the fuss over Aerys was |
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Post by dragriff on Oct 12, 2019 21:52:19 GMT
thanks for the explanation ruff1, i figured that was it but as it was in the westerlands folder i thought it was some kind of bastard house from the targs in the westerlands, since hugh for all i know was from the crownlands.
about the negative opinion of mad king bloodline, I think ruff1 himself has talked about this before in this topic, if you compare with the other Targs bloodlines it serves as a balance, which is lorewise, since jaehaerys and his line for example has an opinion bonus aerys is negatively remembered and this balances the idea of the Targs coin with the madness of some who are hated and others who are good and/or genius who are well remembered to this day. so honestly I think you shouldn't touch it, otherwise it would be very unbalanced and not lorewise
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Post by Azrael on Oct 13, 2019 0:06:17 GMT
I can confirm that there isn't one currently. I've added up all my positive modifiers and the negative ones - and the numbers add up to my current score that I should have only if that isn't being negated. So there needs to be an addition, or else an "only" modifier placed on it somehow, that allows the negatives to only occur if the character doesn't have the same trait. Which is probably easier, because if you try to negate it otherwise you'll have to worry about going overboard. Do just a +10 and it won't negate the vassal -5, do a +15 and non-vassal relatives get an unfair boost. I've got a "same dynasty" +10 bonus, which would negate the first, but not the vassal issue. So I'm still getting an extra -5 from having the same bloodline as her, just because she's a vassal. And honestly, that same dynasty bonus isn't coming from the bloodline - it's a normal family bonus, because blind Aemon at the wall has the bonus with me, without him being of Aerys' blood. Which means it's not really negating anything, as I should have the +10 anyway. Modding explanation: yeah so you can’t make a bloodline have a trait bonus with specifically another bloodline, so as you mention it’d have to be a trait via a trait gain system, I’m not particularly partial to this as it’s fiddly, rather inelegant, and clutters up the trait bar with either an invisible trait or a trait that is called “spawn of the mad king” or something that just seems a bit silly to have as a trait tbh. I do however, have a solution which is to add a 30+ lunatic opinion to the bloodline as (I would argue) a sane targ would be uneasy around someone form the Mad King’s line but if they were also insane they’d probably be ok with it so if the coin flip makes your targ mad you’d not get what all the fuss over Aerys was I would say the possessed and arbitrary traits could possibly fit along those lines as well. |
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