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Post by aconda on Aug 28, 2019 17:51:27 GMT
pff, come to think of it.... the whole "opening of the 3rd" eye seems referenced to warging/skinchanging ability's for Bran's chapters.....and not specifically part to the sight/greendreams mechanics. For a greenseer the reference might be all the same though. Will keep an eye out about it. ..... To me the opening of the third eye was a way to learn how to warg at will, meaning you can consciously go for your animal skin and control it. Maybe the equivalent of this with the green sight is seek for information at will in dreams? Yes, nice. That works.  |
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Post by Elotyr on Aug 28, 2019 18:03:27 GMT
I added an event where greensight uncovers plots same as cats do - its rare to reflect that green dreams aren't foolproof Nods.... it is. The show gave us a visual presentation with like a 100% and clear as day accuracy with the books telling us a different version trough Jojen's stories and Bran's dreams. (like the sea coming to winterfell) That dream, does indicate that Bran would need to learn how to interpretate his dreams.
Jojen tells us in the books that greendreams always come true and that he's able to distinguish when something is a greendream.... or just a regular dream.
Maybe bran's dream was just a dream, with a slight prophetic tint.... but maybe it was infact a solid greendream, but would bran have been more experienced when it happend, he'd actually have seen Theon and the kraken greyjoy's assault winterfell.
Personally i don't trust Jojen, and his dreams, at all. Him being of Greywater Watch is to much of a reference to "Men of Greywater Station", a story all about a Children of Forest like alien race using dreams to make humans kill thenselves, for me to believe his dreams are a good thing. Maybe the reason he is able to say what dreams are green dreams is because they are send by someone to him in the same way Bloodraven sends some of Bran's dreams? |
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Post by lordumber93 on Aug 28, 2019 23:08:00 GMT
Just saying, The Crow in Bran's dream might not be Bloodraven. Bran asks him and he seems confused by there being a Crow in his dreams.
And Jojen is potentially the Greenseer,not Bran. As Jojen has the green eyes and sickly disposition known of Greenseers,while Bran doesn't.
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Post by Elotyr on Aug 28, 2019 23:24:33 GMT
Just saying, The Crow in Bran's dream might not be Bloodraven. Bran asks him and he seems confused by there being a Crow in his dreams. And Jojen is potentially the Greenseer,not Bran. As Jojen has the green eyes and sickly disposition known of Greenseers,while Bran doesn't. Yes this is a good point, may have been the children of the Isle of faces sending it, then again he maybe was confused because "Crow? Oh no no no... Raven my child." About Jojen being the greenseer yeah, he fits the description, but then again so does Sweet Robin. I see Jojen as someone who was heavily influenced by someone else in his dreams, like when he get north of the wall the dude lose much of his wise seer persona. and then again, his sights, and, Bran from this metter, were really not that prophetic at all, some of them just seem like prophecies because of the distance and the time information need to travel. Bran for example thing his Ned dream was prophetic, but Ned did already die if i'm not mistaken, just the information about that didn't got to Winterfell at the time. |
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Post by lordumber93 on Aug 28, 2019 23:35:33 GMT
Just saying, The Crow in Bran's dream might not be Bloodraven. Bran asks him and he seems confused by there being a Crow in his dreams. And Jojen is potentially the Greenseer,not Bran. As Jojen has the green eyes and sickly disposition known of Greenseers,while Bran doesn't. Yes this is a good point, may have been the children of the Isle of faces sending it, then again he maybe was confused because "Crow? Oh no no no... Raven my child." About Jojen being the greenseer yeah, he fits the description, but then again so does Sweet Robin. I see Jojen as someone who was heavily influenced by someone else in his dreams, like when he get north of the wall the dude lose much of his wise seer persona. and then again, his sights, and, Bran from this metter, were really not that prophetic at all, some of them just seem like prophecies because of the distance and the time information need to travel. Bran for example thing his Ned dream was prophetic, but Ned did already die if i'm not mistaken, just the information about that didn't got to Winterfell at the time. I think Brynden's smart enough to know what'd he mean whether he said Crow or Raven(but he could be confused given how much information he has access to). In another dream Bran has, the Crow tries to take Bran's attention away from the Weirwood that's talking to him. Which is another part of the theory that the Crow is the Great Other, and Brynden's the tree in his dreams. Robin is sickly, but he's lacking dreams and green/red eyes, so that's kinda stretching it in my opinion. I think Jojen,if given proper guidance would've been the Greenseer, while Bran would more so be just an exceptional powerful warg. Like a new mutation of Greenseer, lacking the sickness and eyes, but adapting the benefits. Jojens deteriorating condition could be from the cold. He's already weak, and knows he's gonna die, so he lets himself get sicker and sicker just to reach Bloodraven. Which,if you've ever known someone really sickly, their minds aren't really there. It's nice how we're given certain information, yet, everything we see contradicts it. |
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Post by rufff1 on Aug 28, 2019 23:45:05 GMT
Hey guys loving the lore discussion but I think we’re getting a little away from the point of the thread - it’s gone on for two pages now - might be worth starting a thread in the lore section of the site |
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Post by Elotyr on Aug 28, 2019 23:58:17 GMT
Yes this is a good point, may have been the children of the Isle of faces sending it, then again he maybe was confused because "Crow? Oh no no no... Raven my child." About Jojen being the greenseer yeah, he fits the description, but then again so does Sweet Robin. I see Jojen as someone who was heavily influenced by someone else in his dreams, like when he get north of the wall the dude lose much of his wise seer persona. and then again, his sights, and, Bran from this metter, were really not that prophetic at all, some of them just seem like prophecies because of the distance and the time information need to travel. Bran for example thing his Ned dream was prophetic, but Ned did already die if i'm not mistaken, just the information about that didn't got to Winterfell at the time. I think Brynden's smart enough to know what'd he mean whether he said Crow or Raven(but he could be confused given how much information he has access to). In another dream Bran has, the Crow tries to take Bran's attention away from the Weirwood that's talking to him. Which is another part of the theory that the Crow is the Great Other, and Brynden's the tree in his dreams. Robin is sickly, but he's lacking dreams and green/red eyes, so that's kinda stretching it in my opinion. I think Jojen,if given proper guidance would've been the Greenseer, while Bran would more so be just an exceptional powerful warg. Like a new mutation of Greenseer, lacking the sickness and eyes, but adapting the benefits. Jojens deteriorating condition could be from the cold. He's already weak, and knows he's gonna die, so he lets himself get sicker and sicker just to reach Bloodraven. Which,if you've ever known someone really sickly, their minds aren't really there. It's nice how we're given certain information, yet, everything we see contradicts it. Good point, but then again about Sweet B. his eyes are described as runny, or red with the crying, yes stretching, but you know haha A Kid sitted in a death weirwood tree throne who fits a bit of the Greenseer description and the same Whent blood as the Stark children, drinking cavalar doses of dreamwine, milk of poppy and sweetsleep, some of them know for giving a dreamless sleep, and with Bran preventing his wolf dreams if i'm remembering right, others may be used to give a endless one, maybe a coma? Or just used to straightforward kill someone... And yet the Champ still lives and is a awake pain the ass, goddamit the Robert name was well place in the kid, what a beast  Poor jojen, that is what i mean when i say someone must be messing with the kid head, if he knew he probrably would end as a tasty paste in Bran's tummy and still was alright with it or he is really insane or someone was brainwashing him in his dreams hard. |
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Post by Elotyr on Aug 29, 2019 0:01:16 GMT
Hey guys loving the lore discussion but I think we’re getting a little away from the point of the thread - it’s gone on for two pages now - might be worth starting a thread in the lore section of the site Yeah i almost said that myself in the last post, already created a threath in the Story section called "The Children's Two Clans" with a similar discussion if anyone want to keep this talk going, sorry for going away from topic in here! |
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Post by silverberg42 on Aug 29, 2019 11:46:59 GMT
Misplaced CoA bug still unfixed? Cannot wait more in to start to play with MB
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Post by rufff1 on Aug 29, 2019 11:47:58 GMT
Misplaced CoA bug still unfixed? Cannot wait more in to start to play with MB Delete MBS folder and do a clean reinstall, if error persists please list what other submods you are running |
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Post by Balerion on Aug 29, 2019 14:15:14 GMT
Misplaced CoA bug still unfixed? Cannot wait more in to start to play with MB I had the same problem when I used v1.9 of this mod. When I deleted ~\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Crusader Kings II\A Game of Thrones\gfx folder, it worked. You should try and see if this method works or not. |
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Post by dragriff on Aug 31, 2019 2:23:55 GMT
rufff1 if is not asking too much can you PLEASE add a COA for bloodraven? i see there is a dynasty with number 7001 for him, but with no COA like a one head red eyes white dragon who is canonical, i think dragonstone gfx flag is perfect for him so you can use that. i never understand why this is not in the main mod like bittersteel. you can do that for seastar dynasty too, that like bloodraven dont have one. thank you for you absolute great mod
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Post by madjester on Aug 31, 2019 4:13:17 GMT
just a random question, have you noticed any problems with the event for the dynasty selector not firing? I'm able to manually right click on houses and have the dynasty customizer button pop up, but that doesn't work on dead people... so without the event popup I can't be like.. oh my house is no longer alive, then select x dynasty from the list in the popup. Literally can't figure out what's causing it.
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Post by caeserion on Aug 31, 2019 4:13:47 GMT
rufff1 if is not asking too much can you PLEASE add a COA for bloodraven? i see there is a dynasty with number 7001 for him, but with no COA like a one head red eyes white dragon who is canonical, i think dragonstone gfx flag is perfect for him so you can use that. i never understand why this is not in the main mod like bittersteel. you can do that for seastar dynasty too, that like bloodraven dont have one. thank you for you absolute great mod Seconded. IIRC there was a mod floating around with COAs for a bunch of characters and included a rather nice one for Bloodraven. Idk what happened to it now but I'd love a Bloodraven dynasty COA. |
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Post by madjester on Aug 31, 2019 4:44:26 GMT
yeah I've confirmed that it's being caused by this submod. Again, no mod experience whatsoever so I don't even have a clue what to look for. Apparently the event that's not firing when you have the trait at the start of the game is: event customizer_houses.1
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