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Post by rufff1 on May 22, 2019 18:00:14 GMT
Any Possibility for an Earnable Bloodline for Dragonslayer(s)? Its something I'm trying to implement
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Post by kewlslice on May 22, 2019 18:04:06 GMT
Is there a way to get the bloodlines of extinct houses? I tried using the house customizer trait and become part of a YiTi bloodline, but the previous YiTi dynasties aren't selectable with the house customizer trait, only extinct Westerosi houses. If you start a game as or become emperor of YiTi you can pick an imperial bloodline from the list (it won't have the same localisation but it has all the features) not really sure of another way to do it Is that an event? Could I just run it via console?
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Post by rufff1 on May 22, 2019 18:09:51 GMT
If you start a game as or become emperor of YiTi you can pick an imperial bloodline from the list (it won't have the same localisation but it has all the features) not really sure of another way to do it Is that an event? Could I just run it via console? yep - more_bloodlines.600 if memory serves - check it in the file first
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Post by sergent on May 22, 2019 18:13:32 GMT
Hello, I'm about to start a new game in the Agot mod with this submod and I noticed that the Stark have a bloodline Dragonblood, I don't really understand why, can you explain to me please ? this is a fun one, Starks are descended from Blackwoods, and in the mod Bloody Ben Blackwood marries a Baratheon who has the Drop of Dragon Blood bloodline from both her Baratheon and Velaryon ancestry Wow A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one
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Post by Nervosi on May 22, 2019 18:40:27 GMT
Hello, I'm about to start a new game in the Agot mod with this submod and I noticed that the Stark have a bloodline Dragonblood, I don't really understand why, can you explain to me please ? this is a fun one, Starks are descended from Blackwoods, and in the mod Bloody Ben Blackwood marries a Baratheon who has the Drop of Dragon Blood bloodline from both her Baratheon and Velaryon ancestry Wdym by Starks are descended from Blackwoods part?
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Post by simplicius on May 23, 2019 12:02:20 GMT
this is a fun one, Starks are descended from Blackwoods, and in the mod Bloody Ben Blackwood marries a Baratheon who has the Drop of Dragon Blood bloodline from both her Baratheon and Velaryon ancestry Wdym by Starks are descended from Blackwoods part? Rickard Stark's paternal grandmother was Melantha Blackwood.
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Post by xenomorf on May 23, 2019 15:15:18 GMT
Since MBS features some Yi-Ti stuff, how about making compatibility with Yi-Ti Expanded? Ofc. after release of next AGOT version(following new CK2 patch) and when things will settle down with stable build..
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Post by Nervosi on May 23, 2019 20:13:23 GMT
Wdym by Starks are descended from Blackwoods part? Rickard Stark's paternal grandmother was Melantha Blackwood. Ah, marriage. though i wouldn't say they're descended from Blackwoods, a lot of Westerosi houses have each other's Blood through marriage, but by no means are they descended from each other, just related. (excluding Bastard and Cadet houses)
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Post by aconda on May 23, 2019 20:51:00 GMT
Rickard Stark's paternal grandmother was Melantha Blackwood. Ah, marriage. though i wouldn't say they're descended from Blackwoods, a lot of Westerosi houses have each other's Blood through marriage, but by no means are they descended from each other, just related. (excluding Bastard and Cadet houses) It's really an interesting conversation as the terminology is based on "man made rules" that in this medieval era it's those rules that apply to inheritance oft taking the paternal route. But what this story also tells us is that it is an unfair and flawed system. There are countless jabs subtly woven about this topic in the story and we get see lots of different perspectives touching on the topic.
Can a landed stark bastard, pick a name for his new house that includes the stark name? Can official cadet houses share less blood with the main house after centuries of intermingling then other houses?
Alys Karstark tries to convince Jon to help her by nudging him on family honor, even calling him kin... as her father did with Rob. Though genetically, their kinship might really have watered down over the centuries. But trough a " man made rule" they can enforce that use.
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Post by Nervosi on May 23, 2019 23:05:11 GMT
Ah, marriage. though i wouldn't say they're descended from Blackwoods, a lot of Westerosi houses have each other's Blood through marriage, but by no means are they descended from each other, just related. (excluding Bastard and Cadet houses) It's really an interesting conversation as the terminology is based on "man made rules" that in this medieval era it's those rules that apply to inheritance oft taking the paternal route. But what this story also tells us is that it is an unfair and flawed system. There are countless jabs subtly woven about this topic in the story and we get see lots of different perspectives touching on the topic.
Can a landed stark bastard, pick a name for his new house that includes the stark name? Can official cadet houses share less blood with the main house after centuries of intermingling then other houses?
Alys Karstark tries to convince Jon to help her by nudging him on family honor, even calling him kin... as her father did with Rob. Though genetically, their kinship might really have watered down over the centuries. But trough a " man made rule" they can enforce that use.
Definetly, it's flawed as hell, a lot of things are, in ASOIAF universe, more so than it were in our World during Middle Ages. though that's also one of aspects i like about it. even if Starks were descended from Female line of Blackwoods, it wouldn't change much, now if it were a Male line they descended from, that'd be a whole new case. House Stark would pretty much be considered bastards of a Cadet Branch of Blackwoods, they would be nowhere near as prestigeous. i mean, look at Argella Durrandon, her genes pretty much 'Overrode' Orys's genes, her children claimed her Sigil and her House words, pretty much Durrandons 2.0, but House Baratheon isn't considered to be Descended from Durrandons, just because Argella was a female.(While they obviously did descend from House Durrandon) instead they have 'closer ties' to Targaryens just because Orys was a Targ bastard, ridicilous, if you look at it from Logical standpoint instead of ASOIAF perspective.
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Post by rufff1 on May 24, 2019 10:33:35 GMT
Ok so with the latest dev diary for the iron century patch notes for ck2 they mention some new bloodline features including a bloodline feature that boosts electability in elective monarchies - I'm thinking of introducing this for the (expanded) ironborn bloodlines, adding the improved electability to the Goodbrothers, the Hoares, the Greyirons, and the Greyjoys (the houses who provided the most kings from the kingsmoot)
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Post by fallenbismarck on May 24, 2019 15:13:00 GMT
Hey man, love the flavor this mod adds specifically the artifacts and bloodlines. Wanted to know if there is a way in the submod files to remove the warg society and/or reduce the amount events with skinchanging.
I believe it was a lot more rare in the books and south of the wall skinchangers weren't really organized in that way, but every-time I play as the Starks my entire family gets at least 2 animals, and my character gets constant pop-ups to acquire another animal despite declining.
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Post by rufff1 on May 24, 2019 17:07:46 GMT
Hey man, love the flavor this mod adds specifically the artifacts and bloodlines. Wanted to know if there is a way in the submod files to remove the warg society and/or reduce the amount events with skinchanging. I believe it was a lot more rare in the books and south of the wall skinchangers weren't really organized in that way, but every-time I play as the Starks my entire family gets at least 2 animals, and my character gets constant pop-ups to acquire another animal despite declining. Its pretty tricky to remove the skinchanging events and the society as they're all tied in to one another - you might be able to remove the society entirely by deleting the entry in the societies folder in common, bit I can't guarantee it wouldnt have knock on consequences. As to your point I'd personally argue that Jojen and Bran's communication with the 3 eyed raven reflect that skinchangers and greenseers south of the wall can still attract notice and receive training etc, also don't have the quote on me but I seem to remember that the Old Bear makes a comment to Jon Snow about Ghost that suggests he realises Jon is a skinchanger too (except Jon doesn't realise because, well we all know how much Jon Snow knows), I'd also point pit that the Stark kids have only had their wolves for a little over a year on the books - had more time passed or if things were more peaceful I could definitely see the others besides Bran try and get to the bottom of their abilities. So I don't think the society existing is too far fetched. However I do acknowledge that ATM the society is way too OP, I'm trying to reduce this by reducing the chances of gaining new animals and making gaining levels more difficult - ie recquoring at least two animals to level up to level 2 and requiring green sight to reach level 3. Hopefully this should make it less OP. If anyone has other suggestions on how to balance it without deleting it please feel free to post, also any other suggestions for electability boosts for bloodlines please let me know
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Post by cosmic on May 26, 2019 1:39:23 GMT
Is this save compatible?
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Post by Azrael on May 26, 2019 1:42:45 GMT
No, it isn't. It adds new traits.
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