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Post by p0psim0n on Apr 15, 2019 15:43:51 GMT
Hi I just updated to 3.1 and to 1.9.1 and i deleted the previous version of More Bloodlines, and the the new version (1.6.) doesn't seem to work with Better Looking Garbs. Can you post a link to 1.5.3 or maybe look into what conflicts with BLG? So a couple of things to unpack here, More Bloodlines is not currently compatible with AGOT 1.9.1 - given it only came out last week I haven't had a chance to update it yet, you're probably looking at roughly the end of the week. BLG is quite a large mod and so a compatch would take me ages - I can send you the old link to 1.5.3, although I'm not hugely sure it is compatible with BLG, and it is also worth baring in mind that will undo the various bugfixes that 1.6 had for some of the issues with 1.5.3. As for an eventual compatch for BLG the actual process of making a compatch isn't too hard, you just have to spend a large chunk of time using winmerge to compare the two folders and merging duplicate files together in such a way that there is a patch that contains the information for both mods for each file that is shared between the mods, the issue is I just don't really have time to do that rn, if someone else is interested in doing it I'm more than happy to host it and to help out if any problems are encountered. My bad! I didn't know More Bloodlines is not updated Btw on 1.9 i used your mod and BLG without any issues, at least i didn't notice any Thanks! Looking forward for the update. Great mod! |
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Post by alannister on Apr 15, 2019 17:43:10 GMT
Hi I was just curious for the update and pertaining to Tommen / Joffrey etc, if when choosing to go Baratheon I get all the Baratheon bloodlines, if one chooses Lannister if we get the Tywin bloodline, because it gives a +westerman bonus , I also hate seeing his bloodline die out lmao if playing in AFFC since Cersei always marries like another Lannister and the kids always inbred or dies young or stillborn, anyways just a thought/commentary
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Post by rufff1 on Apr 15, 2019 18:27:54 GMT
Hi I was just curious for the update and pertaining to Tommen / Joffrey etc, if when choosing to go Baratheon I get all the Baratheon bloodlines, if one chooses Lannister if we get the Tywin bloodline, because it gives a +westerman bonus , I also hate seeing his bloodline die out lmao if playing in AFFC since Cersei always marries like another Lannister and the kids always inbred or dies young or stillborn, anyways just a thought/commentary Hmm interesting suggestion - the issue is that removing bloodlines from a character who has one is always quite a faff, so I get where you're coming from but I'd have to make sure that they lose the Baratheon bloodlines - if not Joffrey will have like a +7 from all the martial bloodlines he has. Joffrey and Tommen will innately inherit all the patrilineal bloodlines that Robert has so long as he is their father so letting them inherit the Tywin bloodline would stack on top of the Baratheon ones. I guess making the bloodline inherit_matrilineal_same_dynasty would mean Cersei will pass it on if married to another Lannister even if it is not matrilineal which would stop it dying out. I hear what you are saying about the Westerman bonus though, choosing Lannister, or Lannister-Baratheon should give you a boost with Westerlanders as you are embracing your Westerman roots - So I think one idea might be making the choice also creates a unique bloodline that has an opinion boost with Westermen. |
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Post by alannister on Apr 15, 2019 19:23:47 GMT
Hi I was just curious for the update and pertaining to Tommen / Joffrey etc, if when choosing to go Baratheon I get all the Baratheon bloodlines, if one chooses Lannister if we get the Tywin bloodline, because it gives a +westerman bonus , I also hate seeing his bloodline die out lmao if playing in AFFC since Cersei always marries like another Lannister and the kids always inbred or dies young or stillborn, anyways just a thought/commentary Hmm interesting suggestion - the issue is that removing bloodlines from a character who has one is always quite a faff, so I get where you're coming from but I'd have to make sure that they lose the Baratheon bloodlines - if not Joffrey will have like a +7 from all the martial bloodlines he has. Joffrey and Tommen will innately inherit all the patrilineal bloodlines that Robert has so long as he is their father so letting them inherit the Tywin bloodline would stack on top of the Baratheon ones. I guess making the bloodline inherit_matrilineal_same_dynasty would mean Cersei will pass it on if married to another Lannister even if it is not matrilineal which would stop it dying out. I hear what you are saying about the Westerman bonus though, choosing Lannister, or Lannister-Baratheon should give you a boost with Westerlanders as you are embracing your Westerman roots - So I think one idea might be making the choice also creates a unique bloodline that has an opinion boost with Westermen. Yeah I guess I’m coming from a if one chooses Lannister maybe we get the Lannister bonuses + robert but stop the other Baratheon bloodlines from stacking just because it sort of goes with who you see yourself more as? Like if Joffrey chooses to go by Lannister or Baratheon Lannister, hes either elevating his mothers family to his fathers level or he even considers them better than so he would be looking down on the storm land roots of his father. But I def understand if it’s complicated i just wanted to throw it out there also I do like that idea of a bloodline creation instead of if you go with Lannister or Baratheon Lannister just something to make it go with the choice of house |
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Post by rufff1 on Apr 15, 2019 19:32:11 GMT
Hmm interesting suggestion - the issue is that removing bloodlines from a character who has one is always quite a faff, so I get where you're coming from but I'd have to make sure that they lose the Baratheon bloodlines - if not Joffrey will have like a +7 from all the martial bloodlines he has. Joffrey and Tommen will innately inherit all the patrilineal bloodlines that Robert has so long as he is their father so letting them inherit the Tywin bloodline would stack on top of the Baratheon ones. I guess making the bloodline inherit_matrilineal_same_dynasty would mean Cersei will pass it on if married to another Lannister even if it is not matrilineal which would stop it dying out. I hear what you are saying about the Westerman bonus though, choosing Lannister, or Lannister-Baratheon should give you a boost with Westerlanders as you are embracing your Westerman roots - So I think one idea might be making the choice also creates a unique bloodline that has an opinion boost with Westermen. Yeah I guess I’m coming from a if one chooses Lannister maybe we get the Lannister bonuses + robert but stop the other Baratheon bloodlines from stacking just because it sort of goes with who you see yourself more as? Like if Joffrey chooses to go by Lannister or Baratheon Lannister, hes either elevating his mothers family to his fathers level or he even considers them better than so he would be looking down on the storm land roots of his father. But I def understand if it’s complicated i just wanted to throw it out there The issue is bloodline inheritance are hardcoded I could make the event remove the bloodlines but so long as Robert is the acknowledged father I think they'd keep getting added back, I get where you're coming from, which is why I was suggesting the choice creates a bloodline with a Westerman bonus |
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Post by alannister on Apr 15, 2019 19:47:26 GMT
Yeah I guess I’m coming from a if one chooses Lannister maybe we get the Lannister bonuses + robert but stop the other Baratheon bloodlines from stacking just because it sort of goes with who you see yourself more as? Like if Joffrey chooses to go by Lannister or Baratheon Lannister, hes either elevating his mothers family to his fathers level or he even considers them better than so he would be looking down on the storm land roots of his father. But I def understand if it’s complicated i just wanted to throw it out there The issue is bloodline inheritance are hardcoded I could make the event remove the bloodlines but so long as Robert is the acknowledged father I think they'd keep getting added back, I get where you're coming from, which is why I was suggesting the choice creates a bloodline with a Westerman bonus okay that makes sense! Maybe the same blood line might even give a small Malus to Stormlanders to undo all the Durrandon stuff sort of like Dany getting a -10 with slavers if you get a boost in westerman opinion maybe the stormlander bonus should be leveled especially since they get Roberts bloodline that gives +5 to vassals anyways (which I like bcz if one plays Joffrey or Tommen no matter what house you choose the fact that u get Roberts bloodline is a reminder that your whole claim to the throne is on the assumption he’s your dad so it’s cool to see that with them) but a Malus to undo the stormlander extra love would be cool |
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Post by rufff1 on Apr 15, 2019 19:51:40 GMT
The issue is bloodline inheritance are hardcoded I could make the event remove the bloodlines but so long as Robert is the acknowledged father I think they'd keep getting added back, I get where you're coming from, which is why I was suggesting the choice creates a bloodline with a Westerman bonus okay that makes sense! Maybe the same blood line might even give a small Malus to Stormlanders to undo all the Durrandon stuff sort of like Dany getting a -10 with slavers if you get a boost in westerman opinion maybe the stormlander bonus should be level especially since they get Roberts bloodline that gives +5 to vassals anyways (which I like bcz if one plays Joffrey or Tommen no matter what house you choose the fact that u get Roberts bloodline is a reminder that your whole claim to the throne is on the assumption he’s your dad so it’s cool to see that with them) but a Malus to undo the stormlander extra love would be cool Yeah makes sense - just to make sure all three get it I'll put cersei as the founder, have it patrilineal and use an event to give it to all 3 children, so +10 westerlanders (since it's making up for multiple lost bloodlines) and -10 stormlander? |
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Post by alannister on Apr 15, 2019 19:59:33 GMT
okay that makes sense! Maybe the same blood line might even give a small Malus to Stormlanders to undo all the Durrandon stuff sort of like Dany getting a -10 with slavers if you get a boost in westerman opinion maybe the stormlander bonus should be level especially since they get Roberts bloodline that gives +5 to vassals anyways (which I like bcz if one plays Joffrey or Tommen no matter what house you choose the fact that u get Roberts bloodline is a reminder that your whole claim to the throne is on the assumption he’s your dad so it’s cool to see that with them) but a Malus to undo the stormlander extra love would be cool Yeah makes sense - just to make sure all three get it I'll put cersei as the founder, have it patrilineal and use an event to give it to all 3 children, so +10 westerlanders (since it's making up for multiple lost bloodlines) and -10 stormlander? Yes!! That’s awesome, and cool to see the westerman like you a little more since they’re loyal to the Lannister’s and it’d make the stormland bonuses moot which makes sense since even if they side with the Lannister’s seems like the Stormland families wouldn’t have any bonuses to Cersei’s offspring outside of being “Roberts” kids, that sounds really cool man thanks |
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Post by rufff1 on Apr 15, 2019 20:06:47 GMT
Yeah makes sense - just to make sure all three get it I'll put cersei as the founder, have it patrilineal and use an event to give it to all 3 children, so +10 westerlanders (since it's making up for multiple lost bloodlines) and -10 stormlander? Yes!! That’s awesome, and cool to see the westerman like you a little more since they’re loyal to the Lannister’s and it’d make the stormland bonuses moot which makes sense since even if they side with the Lannister’s seems like the Stormland families wouldn’t have any bonuses to Cersei’s offspring outside of being “Roberts” kids, that sounds really cool man thanks Got any ideas for the name of the Bloodline? "Blood of the _____" |
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Post by stonewallace17 on Apr 15, 2019 20:11:21 GMT
Is there a quick fix I can add to 1.6 to stop the repeated events (skinchanger society stuff, Aegon land grants)?
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Post by alannister on Apr 15, 2019 20:12:19 GMT
Yes!! That’s awesome, and cool to see the westerman like you a little more since they’re loyal to the Lannister’s and it’d make the stormland bonuses moot which makes sense since even if they side with the Lannister’s seems like the Stormland families wouldn’t have any bonuses to Cersei’s offspring outside of being “Roberts” kids, that sounds really cool man thanks Got any ideas for the name of the Bloodline? "Blood of the _____" Blood of Cersei , Blood of the Stag and Lion, Blood of the Lion, or Blood of the Queen Mother Cersei Lannister... idk if these are good ?? But D; Maybe even Blood of Queen Cersei, or Blood of the Lannister Queen (this ones funny to me because I can see it as being said as a honor by westerman but with a eye roll or contempt by others) or Blood of Robert & Cersei - just more ideas /: |
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Post by rufff1 on Apr 15, 2019 20:15:08 GMT
Is there a quick fix I can add to 1.6 to stop the repeated events (skinchanger society stuff, Aegon land grants)? go into on_actions and delete more_bloodlines.300, more_bloodlines.303, and more_bloodlines.700 |
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Post by Don't Wake the Dragon on Apr 15, 2019 20:23:12 GMT
I'm really looking forward to the new version of this and playing one of Robert's bastards.
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Post by agyleon on Apr 16, 2019 2:11:37 GMT
okay that makes sense! Maybe the same blood line might even give a small Malus to Stormlanders to undo all the Durrandon stuff sort of like Dany getting a -10 with slavers if you get a boost in westerman opinion maybe the stormlander bonus should be level especially since they get Roberts bloodline that gives +5 to vassals anyways (which I like bcz if one plays Joffrey or Tommen no matter what house you choose the fact that u get Roberts bloodline is a reminder that your whole claim to the throne is on the assumption he’s your dad so it’s cool to see that with them) but a Malus to undo the stormlander extra love would be cool Yeah makes sense - just to make sure all three get it I'll put cersei as the founder, have it patrilineal and use an event to give it to all 3 children, so +10 westerlanders (since it's making up for multiple lost bloodlines) and -10 stormlander? you can use the destroy_bloodline command, remove_from_bloodline and the remove_bloodline_member. I would use the later one. something like 9316 = {
any_owned_bloodline = {
if = {
limit = }has_bloodline_flag = bartheon}
remove_from_bloodline = {9316 }
}
}
}
should do the trick if you put special flag on those bloodline |
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Post by rufff1 on Apr 16, 2019 7:16:26 GMT
Yeah makes sense - just to make sure all three get it I'll put cersei as the founder, have it patrilineal and use an event to give it to all 3 children, so +10 westerlanders (since it's making up for multiple lost bloodlines) and -10 stormlander? you can use the destroy_bloodline command, remove_from_bloodline and the remove_bloodline_member. I would use the later one. something like 9316 = {
any_owned_bloodline = {
if = {
limit = }has_bloodline_flag = bartheon}
remove_from_bloodline = {9316 }
}
}
}
should do the trick if you put special flag on those bloodline Yes but so long as Robert is the known father it's my understanding a maintenance event will add them back to the bloodline and destroying the barat bloodlines would be completely ridiculous. As I said, it's possible to kick the Lannisters out of the Baratheon bloodline whilst they are still thought to be Roberts children but it'd be a faff, a neater solution would be to create another bloodline |
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