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Post by rufff1 on Apr 9, 2019 17:36:33 GMT
More concept to choose from... top one is perfect - also is that a Hokusai.... |
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Post by Nervosi on Apr 9, 2019 17:51:22 GMT
The Black and Yellow Version would fit Gendry perfectly, i like what you're doing with the whole Robert's Bastards, and considering his ambition was to make the Eight, it make sense to put them in different Regions. Maybe make it so that they become visible somehow though, cause unless player intervenes they'll most likely just Stay in someone's court their entire life and die heirless just Like Gendry in Every, Single, Playthrough, lol. and it'll be waste of your effort/time if they'll just fade into obscurity. maybe make them Random Lord/Lady's children and give them adopted trait? (While Retaining their Custom Unique House) Like they were paid to Adopt the children, but i think that's a bit of a stretch. Yeah so the plan is to use the same sort of code as for the finding the missing Starks event so that if say you are Stannis/Jon Arryn/Ned and the Lannisters have been bastardised and you are leading an army in Stony Sept an event will pop up saying "Whilst you were visiting Stony Sept you encountered a woman with a striking resemblance to King Robert, upon further questioning she told you her name was Bella and she was born nine months after Robert's victory at the town in the Battle of the Bells" then you would have the option of taking Bella into your court which would reveal her parentage, give her a claim on the Stormlands and the Iron Throne and give her a cadet dynasty, the option to "let sleeping dogs lie" where you just leave, or (only for cruel characters and Lannisters) "disposing of them discretely" which kills the character. Also upon winning the war as Stannis/Robb/Renly/any other war to bastardise the Lannisters you will have the option to reveal the royal bastards known to your spymaster - which will be Mya, Gendry, and Barra (if alive). Ooh that's neat, i love it. far better and unique than them being in some random court before they die, i'm definetly ganna go on a Bastard hunt, finding each one and revealing them hehe. |
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Post by Nervosi on Apr 9, 2019 18:01:10 GMT
More concept to choose from... Also damn, that was quick, great work Aconda, i have a feeling this Submod is ganna be a Must-have at the end with the amount of support and effort it gets. keep up the great work guys, i'm open to any help you guys might need. (Well,i won't be of much help on modding aspect, but apart from that.) |
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Post by aconda on Apr 9, 2019 18:48:27 GMT
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Post by aconda on Apr 9, 2019 18:49:16 GMT
Golden Stag's and Winged version. |
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Post by aconda on Apr 9, 2019 18:53:07 GMT
More concept to choose from... top one is perfect - also is that a Hokusai.... It's not actually, the top was colour inverted and used a grainy eraser for the effect.  Bookmarked some Hokusai to browse trough later, good times.  |
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Post by rufff1 on Apr 9, 2019 19:02:58 GMT
I may be wrong, but doesn't using marshaling for a bastard CoA a bit weird? I mean this is not like jofrey that is from two noble house, there is no bull house. I'm not an expert in heraldry tho and I must admit it look verry good. PS: did you get the file i sent rufff? I kinda worr they felt trough the cracks of internet. Anxiety disorders suck  On the one hand technically you are correct - marshalling is a non standard way of representing bastardy, but my rationale is if its a cadet house its more Gendry choosing what he wants to represent him - an inverted stag to emphasise his royal descent and a bull as a nod to himself. Plus also conventions of illegitimacy were not very well established in the medieval period - bend sinisters being specifically for bastards were a literary invention by Georgian authors if memory serves - in the medieval period you just needed a different set of arms from your father which were unique to you and that applied whether you were his bastard or his heir. Plus as you say the effect is pretty fun. As for the file, I've got it, sorry for the slow response (finally got around to starting a campaign for the first time in ages lol and just taking modding a little easy until the devs release the great works update lol) - I've already done most of the coding for the executions as you suggested and will soon stark working on the society stuff as well |
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Post by agyleon on Apr 9, 2019 19:13:12 GMT
thanks,
sorry i deleted XD I taught my heraldry comment sounded like a dick XD, and you are right, at the end of the midle age heraldry became a bit weird, with or sur argent for the kingdom of jerusalem and the heraldry of liège and rome that used letters. So nvm, they look, good, beside martin himself took liberties with heraldry
PS: don't worry about the slow answer, I was just worying for nothing, as i usualy do XD thanks for reasuring me ^^
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Post by aconda on Apr 9, 2019 22:33:51 GMT
Winged Stag concept...... is there a preference for colours? Every colour section can be changed seperatly. |
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Post by rufff1 on Apr 10, 2019 11:53:40 GMT
Winged Stag concept...... is there a preference for colours? Every colour section can be changed seperatly. I really like it - I'm still a little torn on colours because I'm not sure what backstory to use for the bastard - the one you did on the purple would work super well for a riverlander bastard from the Cape of Eagles but the one on red could work really well for a stone dornish bastard from the Red Mountains - decisions decisions... :/ |
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Post by Souwly on Apr 11, 2019 10:14:59 GMT
Great mod with creative ideas. I am wondering though how the bloodlines will hold up in a longer game. I want to avoid mixing bloodlines matrilineally as much as possible for myself and the AI as well. In your experience how do the bloodlines end up after a couple hundred of years?
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Post by aconda on Apr 11, 2019 14:54:41 GMT
Cleaned up some files a bit..... Updated the Winged Stag versions and the Bull versions..... and added another Bull/stag variant and added a more accurate version of the golden inverted stag.
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Post by phantom249 on Apr 12, 2019 3:39:27 GMT
Hi, so I installed the mod, and can select it in the mod list when launching ck2, but when I play nothing from the mod is actually in the game, the game just plays like normal. Any idea of what the issue might be?
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Post by Nervosi on Apr 13, 2019 9:42:05 GMT
Great mod with creative ideas. I am wondering though how the bloodlines will hold up in a longer game. I want to avoid mixing bloodlines matrilineally as much as possible for myself and the AI as well. In your experience how do the bloodlines end up after a couple hundred of years? There are few cases where you see silly stuff like a Tully or Lannister sometimes having Arryn bloodline if Matrilineal marriage happens, but it's definetly not like, whole Westeros or Essos sharing same bloodlines. Most blood mixing happens in Dorne actually, just because Dornish have Cognatic meaning that they constantly Matri-marry so Dornishmen can have the same bloodlines but that's not big of an issue really. in my Current playthrough (150 years in) Only Martells have few others bloodlines, like Uller and Qorgyle bloodlines, but that's pretty much it. they don't usually marry outside of Dorne. |
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Post by Nervosi on Apr 13, 2019 9:51:25 GMT
Winged Stag concept...... is there a preference for colours? Every colour section can be changed seperatly. I really like it - I'm still a little torn on colours because I'm not sure what backstory to use for the bastard - the one you did on the purple would work super well for a riverlander bastard from the Cape of Eagles but the one on red could work really well for a stone dornish bastard from the Red Mountains - decisions decisions... :/ I think Cape of Eagles option goes better with second one, Wings make it look more suitable for Cape of Eagles/Mallister type. if it was Wingless then Stone Dornish would also work, cause i haven't seen a sinle Dornish CoA ingame that contains Wings of any sort oddly enough .-. PS, It's unfortunate that Robert didn't have a bastard with Driftmark Ladies. third one's colour scheme would be perfect for a Baratheon/Velaryon bastard  PPS, Would there be an easy way to implement the third option in my Game somehow and make it a Dynamic CoA? :3 Aconda's CoAs are too good to let them go to waste .-. |
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