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Post by jbrams on Dec 10, 2018 0:44:27 GMT
So in Fire & Blood when the Shivers breaks out in the reign of the Conciliator we are told that Targs are essentially immune to plagues other than the shivers - they do not get the Pox, Bloody Flux etc. Perhaps it would be worth making it so Targs are immune to all these plagues and illnesses
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Post by belovedtyrant on Dec 11, 2018 10:25:48 GMT
and yet so many of them die in the Spring  |
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Post by rufff1 on Dec 11, 2018 11:28:09 GMT
Yeah its a weird one I think when volume II of fire and blood comes out it'll turn out that a large reason is that they assumed they were immune at first and went around comforting the sick like Aegon III did with the Winter Sickness and Dany does with the Flux only to belatedly realise that they weren't and they needed to get a quarantine up asap
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Post by ragnarokking on Dec 19, 2018 18:52:01 GMT
I think it's less that the Targaryens are immune or resistant to these kinds of diseases, but rather dragon riders are. Daenerys was not bonded to a dragon, and shortly before her death Jaehaerys seemed to think along the same lines that a dragon is what was needed. Sadly for Daenerys, they didn't get one to her in time. This can also be shown with Aenys having been a weak and sickly child until he bonded with his dragon. So maybe being a dragon rider should give a health boost of +2, or something around that.
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Post by rufff1 on Dec 19, 2018 23:53:49 GMT
I think they are resistant to certain disease of which the shivers isn't one, Dany isn't yet a dragon rider when she rides through the refugee camp without catching the bloody flux but seems immune, Aegon III's dragon had been long dead by the time of the Winter Sickness to which he seems to have been immune, I think Jahaerys shouting for a dragon was just a desperate father clutching at any straws he could think of to save a beloved daughter
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Post by jedi7000nathan on Dec 20, 2018 2:09:23 GMT
If its Dragon riders who have a Disease immunity how about let the trait give a bonus of two health
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Post by lordtheodore on Dec 20, 2018 18:26:16 GMT
I think they are resistant to certain disease of which the shivers isn't one, Dany isn't yet a dragon rider when she rides through the refugee camp without catching the bloody flux but seems immune, Aegon III's dragon had been long dead by the time of the Winter Sickness to which he seems to have been immune, I think Jahaerys shouting for a dragon was just a desperate father clutching at any straws he could think of to save a beloved daughter Although Dany wasn't yet a rider she had already bonded with her dragons |
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Post by knuckey on Dec 24, 2018 11:18:14 GMT
Yeah this probably a myth, rather than some magical immunity to diseases.
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Post by uuconn on Feb 13, 2019 17:31:05 GMT
are the shivers in the mod?
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Post by soulbourne on Feb 13, 2019 18:53:38 GMT
I'd like to point out that while immunity may be a myth, it's quite likely that high valyrian bloodlines are just inherently more resistance to the diseases. In real life some cultures have a much higher tolerance to deadly diseases-even ones common around the world-and can be exposed in relative safety simply because over time they've basically weeded out the weak genetics and developed a few mutations that make them unusually resilant. This however does not mean complete immunity, but it makes it harder for such diseases to take hold and if they do their immune systems have a higher chance of fighting off in the early stages.
If the dragonlords through their eugenics program somehow managed to develop these traits, it could mean that they are, if not immune, unlikely to get sick. However, it also begs noting that the targaryen line is far from pure by the later book marks, and so I feel if something was pursued, it would be far better to tie it to the HV ethnicity(Thus the genetics) and implement it as a higher chance of mild illness rather than outright immunity tags. Maybe have a miraculous recovery event for it if you want to go all in, but I think just having most illnesses become mild would be the optimal solution.
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