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Post by trystepain on Jul 7, 2019 15:23:16 GMT
Hello.
Here, after spending a lot of time playing, I managed to gather several holy places of the Valyrian religion.
The trouble is that once it is reformed, and although slavery is still legal at home, I can no longer make a slave raid against my neighbors.
Is there a reform in particular that must be taken to ensure that this cassus belli is still valid? Is this a bug?
In advance, I thank you for your answers.
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Post by Azrael on Jul 8, 2019 13:48:22 GMT
Hello. Here, after spending a lot of time playing, I managed to gather several holy places of the Valyrian religion. The trouble is that once it is reformed, and although slavery is still legal at home, I can no longer make a slave raid against my neighbors. Is there a reform in particular that must be taken to ensure that this cassus belli is still valid? Is this a bug? In advance, I thank you for your answers. I haven't done any reformation myself, but maybe the pro-slavery doctrine? |
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Post by trystepain on Jul 8, 2019 13:56:43 GMT
Hi.
No, pro-slavery doctrine don't allowed that.
If you use pro-slavery doctine, your zealot leader can make "slavery war". A mix of slave raid and emancipating war.
It's not the same condition and not the same effect.
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Post by Azrael on Jul 8, 2019 15:37:34 GMT
Hi. No, pro-slavery doctrine don't allowed that. If you use pro-slavery doctine, your zealot leader can make "slavery war". A mix of slave raid and emancipating war. It's not the same condition and not the same effect. That's weird. Picking the pro-slavery doctrine, according to the code I've been looking into, should set the law to chattel slavery and allow the use of the slave-raid CB. There is a line under the added effect of taking the pro-slavery doctrine which says add_law_w_cooldown = slavery_2, so there may be a cooldown period after reformation? |
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Post by haroldlauder on Jul 9, 2019 15:21:45 GMT
agotcitadel.boards.net/thread/2673/longer-slave-raid?page=1&scrollTo=12914If you pick a Reformation option that allows you to loot, you lose slave raids. Probably for balance. Not in front of my computer right now but there is a variable for it. Can use slave raid cb = yes sort of thing. I think that if you choose pro slavery, you should still be able to slave raid. It would be powerful but you "use up" one of your Reformation picks.
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Post by trystepain on Jul 9, 2019 16:55:17 GMT
Thanks for your help, but what id reformary option who allow you to loot?
I use this option: Unyielding, Valyrian legacy, workship of the seven, Slaver and Autocephalous.
So, I don't have option to loot into my CB choose and I don't have Slave raid anymore.
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Post by Karl on Jul 9, 2019 17:18:11 GMT
Thanks for your help, but what id reformary option who allow you to loot? I use this option: Unyielding, Valyrian legacy, workship of the seven, Slaver and Autocephalous. So, I don't have option to loot into my CB choose and I don't have Slave raid anymore. Are you able to loot at all? Slave raids are unavailable to any who can loot. |
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Post by trystepain on Jul 9, 2019 17:47:54 GMT
No, I'm not able to loot.
I can make slave raid before reformation and I can not since reformation.
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Post by japster on Jul 9, 2019 19:51:36 GMT
Might it have something to do with Worship of the Seven? The Seven is a traditional anti-slavery.
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Post by trystepain on Jul 9, 2019 21:13:08 GMT
I just ty it.
Worsjip of the Seven is not the problem.
Witout it, I still don't have acces to slave raid.
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Post by Azrael on Jul 9, 2019 23:57:46 GMT
Unyielding allows looting and the pro-slavery doctrine would allow slave raids. If looting and slave raids are mutually exclusive, maybe they're canceling each other out? If that's the case, then being able to pick both should be considered a bug with the fix being that if either one is picked, the other one shouldn't be available. Have you tried with one of those not being selected?
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Post by trystepain on Jul 10, 2019 5:19:00 GMT
It's a good idea.
I have try it.
So, I have unlock way to loot. But even with some other combinaison, I still can't make slave raid.
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