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Post by redtide on Jun 8, 2019 23:32:27 GMT
I don't know whether it's possible (or whether any submods have attempted it), but I thought it might be neat to try to re-purpose the unused technology system. I haven't really come up with many good possibilities, but a couple that I've considered are tracking the capabilities of the Alchemists' Guild and the status of various forms of magic (active / inactive). Any thoughts?
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Post by widowmaker94 on Jun 11, 2019 15:12:33 GMT
Could be interesting, I'd love to see what you come up with.
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Post by virsia on Jun 12, 2019 19:44:22 GMT
alchemist guild really need something well.... alchemical process like creating philosopher stone and such I dunno if that's mentioned in the lore but well it is alchemy to turn iron to gold instantly is just not proper I think..... we also need shady secret society like assassin or thief guild or something, the seven have the stranger as God aspect maybe make use of that??? reinstalling devil worship perhaps?
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Post by Azrael on Jun 12, 2019 21:17:34 GMT
Perhaps the ability to restore certain ancient structures that have fallen to partial/mostly ruined to their pre-ruined state, i.e., Winterfell, Moat Cailin, Harrenhal, etc. Another idea would be to reinstate the ability for troops to not suffer defensive attrition and to also have a higher supply limit in enemy territory.
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Post by jake on Jun 14, 2019 1:32:04 GMT
Personally I don't get why everybody seems to be so keen on restoring the Harrenhal, as it is quite clearly stated in the lore that it is a white elephant and if none of the wealthy Valyrian descendant rulers saw any sense in restoring it for the huge cost of keeping it manned and in shape, how would it be feasible with the constantly shrinking populations of the WotFK-era? Personally I would like to see it be a clear money sink even in its current state, as the constantly changing lords of Harrenhal are clearly stating how feasible it is to upkeep for a lord and even a king probably would have some other use for their stags than upkeeping a huge fortress in a strategically unimportant place. From military perspective same effect could be reached with fortified barracks housing a field army, as field army you are going to need anyways as the placement in middle of grain fields allows armies basically to go just around... |
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Post by l4nd3r on Jun 14, 2019 2:46:31 GMT
Personally I don't get why everybody seems to be so keen on restoring the Harrenhal, as it is quite clearly stated in the lore that it is a white elephant and if none of the wealthy Valyrian descendant rulers saw any sense in restoring it for the huge cost of keeping it manned and in shape, how would it be feasible with the constantly shrinking populations of the WotFK-era? Personally I would like to see it be a clear money sink even in its current state, as the constantly changing lords of Harrenhal are clearly stating how feasible it is to upkeep for a lord and even a king probably would have some other use for their stags than upkeeping a huge fortress in a strategically unimportant place. From military perspective same effect could be reached with fortified barracks housing a field army, as field army you are going to need anyways as the placement in middle of grain fields allows armies basically to go just around... Because it's an engineering marvel. |
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Post by lordumber93 on Jun 14, 2019 19:52:34 GMT
Personally I don't get why everybody seems to be so keen on restoring the Harrenhal, as it is quite clearly stated in the lore that it is a white elephant and if none of the wealthy Valyrian descendant rulers saw any sense in restoring it for the huge cost of keeping it manned and in shape, how would it be feasible with the constantly shrinking populations of the WotFK-era? Personally I would like to see it be a clear money sink even in its current state, as the constantly changing lords of Harrenhal are clearly stating how feasible it is to upkeep for a lord and even a king probably would have some other use for their stags than upkeeping a huge fortress in a strategically unimportant place. From military perspective same effect could be reached with fortified barracks housing a field army, as field army you are going to need anyways as the placement in middle of grain fields allows armies basically to go just around... Which rich Valyrian's ever ruled it? The families who have ruled there became wealthy because of the wealth of the lands and the abundant population in the area around the God's Eye. It is a strategic location, it essentially cuts off the middle-Eastern part of the Continent, an army placed there could have outriders and scouting parties covering from the bay of crabs to Riverrun with nearly no Lord's strong enough to do anything if the army rode out. Canals cut in could supply water and the Gods wood is so big it could sustain a small population of animals. It's only a white elephant if you're greedy and want fat coffers full of gold. If you're smart, and your descendants are as well, it's the single best castle in the lore. |
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Post by Karl on Jun 15, 2019 11:26:38 GMT
Personally I don't get why everybody seems to be so keen on restoring the Harrenhal, as it is quite clearly stated in the lore that it is a white elephant and if none of the wealthy Valyrian descendant rulers saw any sense in restoring it for the huge cost of keeping it manned and in shape, how would it be feasible with the constantly shrinking populations of the WotFK-era? Personally I would like to see it be a clear money sink even in its current state, as the constantly changing lords of Harrenhal are clearly stating how feasible it is to upkeep for a lord and even a king probably would have some other use for their stags than upkeeping a huge fortress in a strategically unimportant place. From military perspective same effect could be reached with fortified barracks housing a field army, as field army you are going to need anyways as the placement in middle of grain fields allows armies basically to go just around... No wealthy Valyrian has held Harrenhal. The changes of lords of Harrenhal were not caused by expenses. The lords died out. Hence the "curse" which is hypothesized in the novels (and real in the mod). Whether "a lord and even a king probably would have some other use for their stags" is an interesting question, though one the players should get to decide for themselves. As they currently do. At the very least a restored Harrenhal should get a unique fortress level bonus, I think. Probably also something to reflect the likely influx of people to the greatest castle in the realm - something like adding a holding, or giving the castle the highest level. I am not quite sure what you mean by your last line, by the way, but if you are trying to imply that a fortified barrack is strategically equal to massive walls and tall towers I think you may be a bit mistaken. <iframe width="33.88000000000011" height="4.680000000000007" style="position: absolute; width: 33.88000000000011px; height: 4.680000000000007px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_28662272" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="33.88000000000011" height="4.680000000000007" style="position: absolute; width: 33.88px; height: 4.68px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1624px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_32108994" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="33.88000000000011" height="4.680000000000007" style="position: absolute; width: 33.88px; height: 4.68px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 173px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_69562800" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="33.88000000000011" height="4.680000000000007" style="position: absolute; width: 33.88px; height: 4.68px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1624px; top: 173px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_84736194" scrolling="no"></iframe>  |
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