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Post by Elotyr on Aug 22, 2019 10:23:21 GMT
A question/Request, will we get a "Blood of the Red Widow" or something like that in the uptade? Rohanne Webber was a really intriguing character when we follow Dunk and Egg and would be really cool to get a matrilineal bloodline for Tywin's Grandma.  Anyways, thanks for this amazing submod! I can't even imagine how much time and dedication you put into it, and i'm with m3dicated, also can't start to play 2.0 without my favorite one.  Ok I rate it as an idea - what are your thoughts as to potential bonuses (attraction and plot power?) - also I'm gonna set it to patrilineal as she'll pass it on to her kids from her matrilineal marriage and I prefer bloodlines sticking with their houses and I would be a shame for the bloodline to die out with Rohanne's daughter Meera (her only female descendant who in turn had only sons) Yes i think plot and attraction works for her, also maybe mystic? There was talk about she solding her unborn children to the lord of the seven hells in exchange for teachings of dark arts and some things like that, most likely just smallfolk superstitions. But them again the amount of deads around her and we never getting a dead for the woman, just she dissapearing in 230 AC, can be a good reason to her descents look into the occult? |
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Post by rufff1 on Aug 22, 2019 10:29:50 GMT
Ok I rate it as an idea - what are your thoughts as to potential bonuses (attraction and plot power?) - also I'm gonna set it to patrilineal as she'll pass it on to her kids from her matrilineal marriage and I prefer bloodlines sticking with their houses and I would be a shame for the bloodline to die out with Rohanne's daughter Meera (her only female descendant who in turn had only sons) Yes i think plot and attraction works for her, also maybe mystic? There was talk about she solding her unborn children to the lord of the seven hells in exchange for teachings of dark arts and some things like that, most likely just smallfolk superstitions. But them again the amount of deads around her and we never getting a dead for the woman, just she dissapearing in 230 AC, can be a good reason to her descents look into the occult? I thought about mystic but I don't think it applies seeing as in the book it turns out it was just misogyny behind those rumours - its hardly the blackwoods or the starks with an innate connection to magic |
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Post by m3dicated on Aug 22, 2019 10:36:39 GMT
attraction, plot power, tend to be ambitious
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Post by rufff1 on Aug 22, 2019 10:41:28 GMT
attraction, plot power, tend to be ambitious ambitious is a shout, additionally thanks to a quirk of how the reach history file is written (they only put her marriage to Eustace in her file not his) the game gives the bloodline to her Osgrey descendants, where do people stand on this? I should be able to remove them if people don't think them having the bl is appropriate |
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Post by Elotyr on Aug 22, 2019 10:48:31 GMT
Yes i think plot and attraction works for her, also maybe mystic? There was talk about she solding her unborn children to the lord of the seven hells in exchange for teachings of dark arts and some things like that, most likely just smallfolk superstitions. But them again the amount of deads around her and we never getting a dead for the woman, just she dissapearing in 230 AC, can be a good reason to her descents look into the occult? I thought about mystic but I don't think it applies seeing as in the book it turns out it was just misogyny behind those rumours - its hardly the blackwoods or the starks with an innate connection to magic Good point, as m3dicated said ambitious can work, she climbed her way to Casterly Rock from the Reach haha Also maybe Mystic opinion modifier would be a good way to represent that even if that was just misogyny there still those stories about her? Like in Shiera Seastar bloodline for example. |
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Post by rufff1 on Aug 22, 2019 10:54:40 GMT
I thought about mystic but I don't think it applies seeing as in the book it turns out it was just misogyny behind those rumours - its hardly the blackwoods or the starks with an innate connection to magic Good point, as m3dicated said ambitious can work, she climbed her way to Casterly Rock from the Reach haha Also maybe Mystic opinion modifier would be a good way to represent that even if that was just misogyny there still those stories about her? Like in Shiera Seastar bloodline for example. yeah I like mystic opinion |
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Post by Elotyr on Aug 22, 2019 10:54:58 GMT
attraction, plot power, tend to be ambitious ambitious is a shout, additionally thanks to a quirk of how the reach history file is written (they only put her marriage to Eustace in her file not his) the game gives the bloodline to her Osgrey descendants, where do people stand on this? I should be able to remove them if people don't think them having the bl is appropriate I think it works, they being fruit of her scheme during Duncan tale after all, feels really appropriate to me |
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Post by m3dicated on Aug 22, 2019 11:02:28 GMT
Idk, I view Osgreys as losers who chose the losing side. Don't they have their own bloodline already? Checkered Lion or sth like that? Hereditary claim to Northmarch, if Checkered Lion doesn't have it already.
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Post by rufff1 on Aug 22, 2019 11:06:11 GMT
Idk, I view Osgreys as losers who chose the losing side. Don't they have their own bloodline already? Checkered Lion or sth like that? They do (Blood of the Little Lion), but the Webbers also get it (I've coded an event so Rohanne's daughter passes it on to her Webber sons) and in some ways Rohanne basically did a hostile takeover of House Osgrey so perhaps she gave them some common sense in the process |
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Post by Elotyr on Aug 22, 2019 11:24:59 GMT
Btw, and sorry if i'm being a pain, will we have more Iron Islands bloodlines? Can't wait for Farwynds skingchanging Walrus  |
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Post by rufff1 on Aug 22, 2019 11:38:47 GMT
Btw, and sorry if i'm being a pain, will we have more Iron Islands bloodlines? Can't wait for Farwynds skingchanging Walrus Major feature of the update as it happens -I've also redrawn the Iron isles to have more provinces but the samish number of holdings - they can't field any more troops than before but more houses are playable, its harder to conquer and the iron isles being dirt poor is better reflected by having more provinces with less holdings than a small number of uber developed holdings, I've also added in a couple more duchies to even things out, I've had a few playthroughs to test it and the only real change from a gameplay perspective is that kingsmoots are now even more fun as you have 5 or so additional counts thrown in the mix. Here's the list of the new bloodlines the update will add:
blacktyde_bloodline;Blood of the Blacktyde;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
botley_bloodline;Blood of the Botley;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
drumm_bloodline;Blood of the Drumm;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
farwynd_bloodline;Blood of the Farwynd;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
greyjoy_bloodline;Blood of the Greyjoy;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
harlaw_bloodline;Blood of the Harlaw;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
kenning_bloodline;Blood of the Kenning;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
merlyn_bloodline;Blood of the Merlyn;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
myre_bloodline;Blood of the Myre;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
orkwood_bloodline;Blood of the Orkwood;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
saltcliffe_bloodline;Blood of the Saltcliffe;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
sparr_bloodline;Blood of the Sparr;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
stonehouse_bloodline;Blood of the Stonehouse;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
stonetree_bloodline;Blood of the Stonetree;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
sunderly_bloodline;Blood of the Sunderly;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
tawney_bloodline;Blood of the Tawney;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
volmark_bloodline;Blood of the Volmark;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
wynch_bloodline;Blood of the Wynch;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
ironmaker_bloodline;Ironmaker Blood;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
ironfoot_bloodline;Blood of the Ironfoot;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
ravenfeeder_bloodline;Blood of the Raven-Feeder;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
qhored_cruel_bloodline;Blood of Qhored the Cruel;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
old_kraken_bloodline;Blood of the Old Kraken;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
coldwind_bloodline;Blood of the Coldwind;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
harron_bloodline;Blood of Harron Harlaw;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
maidensbane_bloodline;Blood of the Maidensbane;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
redhand_bloodline;Blood of the Redhand;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
stumphand_bloodline;Blood of the Stumphand;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
necromancer_drumm_bloodline;Blood of the Necromancer;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
reader_harlaw_bloodline;Blood of the Reader;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
knight_harlaw_bloodline;Blood of the Knight of Harlaw;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
twice_crowned_bloodline;Blood of the Twice Crowned;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
vance;Blood of King Armistead Vance;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
vorian_vypren;Blood of Vorian Vypren;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
clarence_crabb;Blood of Ser Clarence Crabb;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
roddy_ruin;Blood of Roddy the Ruin;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
hardy;Blood of Lord Lucifer Hardy;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
webber_widow;Blood of the Red Widow;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
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Post by rufff1 on Aug 22, 2019 11:40:25 GMT
Btw, and sorry if i'm being a pain, will we have more Iron Islands bloodlines? Can't wait for Farwynds skingchanging Walrus On a sidenote aconda do you reckon we could do a walrus trait separate to the sea lion trait? Could be a fun addition |
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Post by Elotyr on Aug 22, 2019 11:48:43 GMT
Holy that looks amazing! That settles it, a pirate life for me in the in the next campaign  |
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Post by ogarrr on Aug 22, 2019 12:36:33 GMT
House Codd might be quite good with a general opinion of at least -5 (though all men do despise us). Blood of the Despised is what I'd call it.
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Post by rufff1 on Aug 22, 2019 12:42:49 GMT
House Codd might be quite good with a general opinion of at least -5 (though all men do despise us). Blood of the Despised is what I'd call it. Already exists (Vile Blood of House Codd) - these are just the new ones added in the update |
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