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Post by rufff1 on Jun 23, 2020 22:20:36 GMT
Currently investigating the Jon bloodline weirdness - I think I know what's going on and have a couple of planned solutions to each problem
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Post by rufff1 on Jun 23, 2020 22:31:51 GMT
Do you mind giving Brandon of the 'Bloody Blade' a bloodline and a descendant? He and the the Maid are the only two without a unique bloodline. So Brandon of the Bloody Blade is a (presumably fictitious) person that the Gardeners claimed was the father of Bran the Builder as part of their broader empire building project to claim that every major First Man house was descended from Garth Greenhand and therefore as Garth the Gardener was the firstborn of Garth Greenhand all other houses owed fealty to House Gardener as a result of primogeniture, they also did something similar with the Lannisters by claiming Lann was the son of either Florys the Fox or Rowan Goldtree. Of course most of Garth's children are probably fabrications by the Gardeners but the Reach houses accept them and claim them as their ancestors so it makes sense to keep them as the founders, by contrast the Starks and Lannisters dispute the Gardener claims and do not accept Garth as their progenitor so it wouldn't make sense to place Brandon of the Bloody Blade as the father of Bran the Builder, and we know of no other house that claims him as their founder so any addition would be non canon compliant. As for the Maris the Maid, her husband seems the more active participant in her legend (in contrast to say the three husbands of Florys the Fox where Florys is clearly main character of her legend), therefore it makes more sense for him to be the founder of the first Hightower bloodline and a Maris bloodline would be superfluous imo.
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Post by stonewallace17 on Jun 23, 2020 22:48:38 GMT
Yeah I think the Saerys bloodlines are being added to Jon because they have the Targaryen flag. I think it happens with Aegon too in AFFC.
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Post by ππππππππππββππππ on Jun 24, 2020 4:17:48 GMT
Do you mind giving Brandon of the 'Bloody Blade' a bloodline and a descendant? He and the the Maid are the only two without a unique bloodline. So Brandon of the Bloody Blade is a (presumably fictitious) person that the Gardeners claimed was the father of Bran the Builder as part of their broader empire building project to claim that every major First Man house was descended from Garth Greenhand and therefore as Garth the Gardener was the firstborn of Garth Greenhand all other houses owed fealty to House Gardener as a result of primogeniture, they also did something similar with the Lannisters by claiming Lann was the son of either Florys the Fox or Rowan Goldtree. Of course most of Garth's children are probably fabrications by the Gardeners but the Reach houses accept them and claim them as their ancestors so it makes sense to keep them as the founders, by contrast the Starks and Lannisters dispute the Gardener claims and do not accept Garth as their progenitor so it wouldn't make sense to place Brandon of the Bloody Blade as the father of Bran the Builder, and we know of no other house that claims him as their founder so any addition would be non canon compliant. As for the Maris the Maid, her husband seems the more active participant in her legend (in contrast to say the three husbands of Florys the Fox where Florys is clearly main character of her legend), therefore it makes more sense for him to be the founder of the first Hightower bloodline and a Maris bloodline would be superfluous imo. Since most of the other bloodlines are just hearsay or myth from Garth, I think Brandon could have one that no one discussed or mentioned simply because no one cared for his legend or believed it. You could still give his bloodline to house Stark because the rest are already just hearsay anyway and they lose that bloodline after a certain time or bookmark.
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Post by zhen on Jun 24, 2020 21:41:37 GMT
Hi so I was wondering. Since the Tyrells have a unique ethnicity or dyn, I though that maybe the Florents could possibly have their own dyn. It could be something of, character portraits with costume-designed, fox-like eyes and fox-like colors for their hair, or to make things simpler and quicker, the tyrell_dyn could be used for the basis of the florent_dyn and the only change to it would be the aforementioned fox-like features. All in all, I don't see why wouldn't the florents get at least something special. Even though they aren't that much of an important or "special" house, as far as Westerosi houses go, I still think that besides their bloodline there could be one last flavor for them, that being the addition of their own dyn, As for the bloodline I would suggest adding to it the shrewd and envious character traits, as they are most appropriate for the character of their house.
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Post by rufff1 on Jun 24, 2020 23:42:43 GMT
Hi so I was wondering. Since the Tyrells have a unique ethnicity or dyn, I though that maybe the Florents could possibly have their own dyn. It could be something of, character portraits with costume-designed, fox-like eyes and fox-like colors for their hair, or to make things simpler and quicker, the tyrell_dyn could be used for the basis of the florent_dyn and the only change to it would be the aforementioned fox-like features. All in all, I don't see why wouldn't the florents get at least something special. Even though they aren't that much of an important or "special" house, as far as Westerosi houses go, I still think that besides their bloodline there could be one last flavor for them, that being the addition of their own dyn, As for the bloodline I would suggest adding to it the shrewd and envious character traits, as they are most appropriate for the character of their house. So the Florent's defining feature is their ears - I'd love to represent that in game but frustratingly there is no way to do so - stong seed only works for hair and eye colours, as for which we aren't told that they have fox like colouring (Selyse has pale eyes for example, and typically is shown as having brown hair), they already have ambitious and have an intrigue focused bloodline, I'm fairly happy with its current set up
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Post by zhen on Jun 25, 2020 6:01:45 GMT
Hello. I just saw a screenshot of the Royce family from The Gates of the Moon, and I just realized that in my game there was no such house. There is only one royce house in my game and although i checked the files, there exist such a house in the files but not in the game. I am very confused, because I don't know if that is a bug within my game, (i am using the latest version of the mod and the submod) or if that house has been removed from the submod. If anybody can help me with this, i would be very thankful.
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Post by Rat Cook on Jun 25, 2020 10:52:11 GMT
I have noticed that when I start the game with the house customizer trait and I pick house Fisher or Teague I do not get the option to forge their armours. House Gardener works fine though. I haven't checked the others. Also, for some reason house Fisher does not have a bloodline.
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Post by zhen on Jun 25, 2020 13:56:23 GMT
Quick question. Why doesn't Ellyn Reyne have her own bloodline. She was certainly important in starting the Reyne-Tarbeck Rebellion and she was also the catalyst for the fall of Houses Tarbeck and Reyne at the hands of the vengeful Tywin Lannister. So I wouldn't see why she shouldn't have a bloodline. If there is a reason pleas tell me.
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Post by dannyd on Jun 25, 2020 20:01:51 GMT
I dont know if it's just me but the new Targaryen bloodines do not show up for me and are there new Lannister bloodlines?
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Post by turtleshroom on Jun 26, 2020 20:11:01 GMT
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Post by Rastafaustian on Jun 26, 2020 22:11:20 GMT
I did a search in this thread and couldn't find anything about what I assume is a bug: I can't craft the Targaryen armour after I have any of the crowns from The Seven Kingdoms. It looks like they're all flagged as family_armour.
Edit: Nevermind, looks like I picked up a suit of armour from Argilac, but for some reason the tooltip was pointing to the crowns as the conflict.
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Post by oddison74 on Jun 27, 2020 22:51:04 GMT
I downloaded the Mod, but when I open the game instead of adding more bloodlines all it does is remove the prestige and opinion modifiers from existent bloodlines (the traditional claims and strong seed stuff still exist). The new counties and events still work, but the bloodlines stuff doesn't. Does anyone know why?
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Post by fergus on Jun 28, 2020 2:40:50 GMT
Hey I'm having some issues with the k_dragonstone title
In any start date that I've been able to find, regardless of who should be holding k_dragonstone at the time, it is always being defaulted to being held by Stannis Baratheon (id=4317) - regardless if he's even alive at the time or not.
Whenever this occurs, it'll usually jump to being held by the lord of Claw Isle at the time. I've looked into province history and anything else that could hold the issue but I can't find anything that would make sense.
Any help would be awesome. Thanks!
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Post by rufff1 on Jun 28, 2020 6:48:01 GMT
I downloaded the Mod, but when I open the game instead of adding more bloodlines all it does is remove the prestige and opinion modifiers from existent bloodlines (the traditional claims and strong seed stuff still exist).Β The new counties and events still work, but the bloodlines stuff doesn't. Does anyone know why? at a guess incompatible history files in another submod youβre running
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