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Post by thelastofhisname on Dec 29, 2017 20:17:39 GMT
I had an idea while playing the other day and thought I would share with the world. I should note that none of this is canon since I like building up on my own stories (which is why I like the pre-doom and CoB sub-mods so much since it's like a clean-slate to re-write history!) This sub-mod simply adds a new culture to the Valyrian culture-group called "Mhysarian" (as in Mhysa (mother) in the ghiscari tongue) which I'll explain below: The main focus on the culture is it's feminist/matriarchal structure, which I thought would be fun to have in the isle of cedars (maybe you know why but I won't spoil anything) after colonizing it. So I made this culture absolute Enatic which means only women can inherit titles. As I imagined it, the culture developped as such after having issues to conceive male heirs in the island, forcing the inhabitants to give power to women. The name "Mhysarian" came from their involvement with the cities of slaver's bay which became necessary as they basically depend on slaves to reproduce. The word mhysa as you may know means "Mother", and so they adopted the identity as the mothers of the isle of cedars. Features of this mod: - Feminist/Matriarchal culture with enatic succession laws - Male harems. Ruling women can take up to 5 slaves as consorts, and a eunuch as official husband to act as father to the children of her dynasty. - More to come in future versions! I'll be taking suggestions to add to the submod and hopefully release another version when they update the basemod Download link: AGOT Valyrian Amazons.zip (659.02 KB)
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Post by sageoson on Dec 29, 2017 23:45:01 GMT
I find making Enatic kingdoms incredibly fun personally so I am really looking forward to you releasing this submod. As for suggestions perhaps some flavor events regarding sons getting uppity(as they are the only sons in the world not being considered to take a title). Also for artifacts possibly specific weapons designed for women like dark sister the valyrian steel blade is considered to be forged for a female warrior.
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Post by guest on Dec 30, 2017 11:08:27 GMT
I can give you part of one of my personal mods, which effectively adds female polygamy for the rulers of Lengi, if you like. One could easily modify that to allow the mechanics for Mhysarian as well.
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Post by thelastofhisname on Dec 30, 2017 18:55:30 GMT
I find making Enatic kingdoms incredibly fun personally so I am really looking forward to you releasing this submod. As for suggestions perhaps some flavor events regarding sons getting uppity(as they are the only sons in the world not being considered to take a title). Also for artifacts possibly specific weapons designed for women like dark sister the valyrian steel blade is considered to be forged for a female warrior. Before doing this mod I had never had the chance to play an Enatic kingdom so I'm really excited about this as well! Those are nice suggestions, thanks! I'll see how I can add those to the mod I can give you part of one of my personal mods, which effectively adds female polygamy for the rulers of Lengi, if you like. One could easily modify that to allow the mechanics for Mhysarian as well. that would be awesome!
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Post by Fun on Jan 8, 2018 17:06:55 GMT
So where's the mod? Are you going to share it?
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Post by ptolemy on Jan 9, 2018 23:29:50 GMT
Yeah, this does sound really interesting! Hope you decide to publish it soon!
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Post by thelastofhisname on Jan 10, 2018 1:57:06 GMT
absolutely! I just want to make sure it works alright and I'm not breaking anything since it would be my first time doing anything like it perhaps you guys would like to test a sort of beta version? you could find something I might be missing
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Post by sageoson on Jan 10, 2018 13:03:11 GMT
I would love to beta it for you.
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Post by staten8808 on Jan 11, 2018 15:23:23 GMT
absolutely! I just want to make sure it works alright and I'm not breaking anything since it would be my first time doing anything like it perhaps you guys would like to test a sort of beta version? you could find something I might be missing I want to beta this as well. Some recommendations -Sacrifice male prisoners -Male Harem - A lot of events based onyour focus especially warrior focus - maybe some specific traits for your new race of valyrian amazons.
Glad you're doing this!
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Post by staten8808 on Jan 11, 2018 15:29:05 GMT
What about a queen's MOOT?
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Post by thelastofhisname on Jan 11, 2018 17:11:24 GMT
I already made succession for the culture to be fully Enatic so a queensmoot is not in my plans, but I'm already working on traits and events like staten8808 suggests. The male harem should already be working and I reall like the idea of male sacrifices! I would just need a vallid reason (I mean in a cultural sense) for them to want to sacrifice men at all
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Post by ptolemy on Jan 12, 2018 2:51:17 GMT
I already made succession for the culture to be fully Enatic so a queensmoot is not in my plans, but I'm already working on traits and events like staten8808 suggests. The male harem should already be working and I reall like the idea of male sacrifices! I would just need a vallid reason (I mean in a cultural sense) for them to want to sacrifice men at all There are any number of reasons why men might be sacrificed, with the reasons usually relating to ensuring good fortune for their people in some form. A bountiful harvest or the end of a drought, deliverance from a plague, or success in war. You could borrow from the tradition of sacrifices for R'hllor, or perhaps follow the example of the Prince of Pentos by sacrificing an honorary king to ensure good fortune. In real-world historical cultures that mirrored this, the custom was often heavily tied to the passing of the seasons. Some cultures even had permanent Queens who would marry the king for that particular year. It would be quite easy to tie matriarchy to such customs.
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Post by arithra on Jan 12, 2018 17:23:31 GMT
I guess a good reason would be if they revolted against the queen's rule? More likely to happen if they were previously conquered, but it could happen. Also for male claimants who turn traitor, or those who set out of claimant adventures... or in general those trying to conquer the kingdom. You could also make it a think for mad/lunatic (maybe even paranoid) rulers to do so. Could also be used in case of diseases and plagues, and then boost the disease resistance. You might also have some events for male children (if they have the ambitious trait or something) I mean they would be valyrian, so in general they would be married to their sisters. If one is married to a sister nor heir, he could plot to kill his wife and become Prince consort or something.
Is the whole Kingdom enatic? Or is it like Lengi where it is only the God empress ruling over Lords?
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Post by thelastofhisname on Jan 12, 2018 18:36:31 GMT
the whole kingdom would be enatic.. I still need to actually get a kingdom tier working but that's what I have in mind I think I'm gonna go with male sacrifices to get female heirs... evil characters (with sinful/lunatic traits) could even sacrifice their own male children to ask the gods for a daughter instead.
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Post by arithra on Jan 13, 2018 1:27:32 GMT
Can vassals switch to enatic-cognatic later or is it truely always female rulers with no male rulers possible? And religion would probably be difficult too if they are still of the Valyrian religion, given that the priests are always male.
Well the sacrifice to ask for a daughter thing is pretty cool. Would there be a sudden pregnancy or something? Or no actual effect? (except for maybe fertility boosts)
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